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Tatvan - Kurdistan: Boundaries and Borderlands 5

Photography Travel posted on Sep 28, 2014
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This image does not lie; Tatvan is a rather bleak city, mostly of industrial concrete in eastern Turkey on the western edge of Lake Van. Its main claim to any fame is that it is a jumping off spot for other more interesting places! However, what may be overlooked is that this is the northern edge of Kurdistan, a nation whose population exists in three countries: Iraq, Syria and Turkey. This is a very tense area of the world.It was my first experience at being chased by a group of hostile Arabic men who were upset that I was photographing people on the street. By contrast the Kurdish people loved being photographed and I got some great shots. Learning to figure out who was likely a Kurd and would be friendly, and who was likely Arabic and would be hostile, was a necessary street survival skill. We see in the foreground a Kurdish woman and her child and a Kurdish man, maybe even her husband, with short sleeves. How do I know they are Kurds? Because only Kurdish women dress in western clothes and only a Kurdish man would be wearing a short sleeve golf shirt. In the midground you can see Arabic women who are wearing headscarves and, despite the heat, Arabic women wear long coats, much like rain coats. These young ladies were very fashionable by their cultural standards. We also see an older man with long sleeves and a jacket. This shot shows a bit of the cultural contrast that exist in Kurdistan. Here I attempted to capture the pure grittiness of the city. I like the fact that you can see a classic eastern Turkish construction site in the background; there are no barriers or fences .. just broken rubble falling right into a main street! What I really like about this picture is the strong leading lines of the sidewalk and cars; how the scene is reflected in the glass of their windows. The high contrast black and white and the gritty postwork give the work a timeless appeal.

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Faemike55

7:27PM | Sun, 28 September 2014

it is interesting to see three boundaries on the road/street: the main road where we see the cars parked; a lower sidewalk display walk with the cobblestone and then the sidewalk proper (upper tier) the barriers of course are the walls of the building with a barrier/boundary of the rubble in the distance. this image is gritty and harsh but real in emotion and motion.

brewgirlca

9:32PM | Sun, 28 September 2014

Great seeing there Mike. You are right, there are three distinct regions along the walkways, each with their own function.

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eekdog Online Now!

7:28PM | Sun, 28 September 2014

such a magnificent shot. your b&w is just perfect..

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magnus073

7:34PM | Sun, 28 September 2014

Great work on this one, Roxy. I very much enjoyed your insightful comments also.

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KatesFriend

7:48PM | Sun, 28 September 2014

A very striking shot indeed. The stark black and white photography is very apt here. Adding to the 'character' of this place - if one might call it that - is the demolished rubble of one of those bleak concrete buildings - the construction sight you mentioned. It is interesting your remarks about the Kurds. I understand that within their quasi-independent territory in Northern Iraq, at least in the cities, you would be hard pressed to think you were not in a western country by the open and casual friendliness of the people there.

brewgirlca

10:01PM | Sun, 28 September 2014

That is my experience too. The Kurds have a rather bad reputation amongst the Turks and Arabs. And yet for me the Kurds were universally friendly and outgoing. The very first thing they would say when they met you was "I am a Kurd and you are?" After being chased by the hostile young Arabs I wound up in a Kurdish market not 200 m away. There people were excited to see someone who wanted to take pictures with a big DSLR. Everyone was posing and goofing around. At the end I picked several fantastic fruits to fill a small bag but then they would not take any payment for them. Friends came back that evening and told of being invited into peoples houses for tea and treats. One of the positive things to come from my trip to eastern Turkey is that it changed my view of the Kurdish peoples.

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3dpoetry

9:01PM | Sun, 28 September 2014

Your photography is amazing Roxy, and the in depth story behind each shot is captivating. Your shots capture the very essence of each places soul. Very Well done!

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MineFujiko

6:47AM | Mon, 29 September 2014

Cool B/W capture, Roxy-san!

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sossy

7:44AM | Mon, 29 September 2014

impressive streetview in b/w and informative text! ;o)

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Egzariuf

8:27AM | Mon, 29 September 2014

WOW, this is an amazing shot !!!

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rhol_figament

6:51PM | Mon, 29 September 2014

Excellent image and a timeless one indeed! This is a part of the world we don't often see in an every day setting... :)

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drifterlee

6:57PM | Mon, 29 September 2014

Very cool shot!!!

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adorety

8:00PM | Mon, 29 September 2014

Amazing photo. The high contrast does indeed suit this image. As Mike mentioned, I noticed the three layer road/sidewalk thing and found that interesting. It looks like it is normal part of street construction here. And that giant pile or rubble near the center of the photo is something to behold. I guess they get around to dealing with that when they can. Great contrast of cultures too. Interesting, but not surprising, to learn that a lot of Arabs don't like the seemingly "westernized" Kurds. That fact that we are seeing this photo means you escaped your assailants and I'll assume you are careful. Then again, you do like the thrill of a challenge, don't you ;)

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RodS Online Now!

8:38PM | Tue, 30 September 2014

It definitely has a gritty look to it - this reminds me so much of Udon-Thani (Udorn) Thailand when I was there back during the Vietnam war. I have to tell you..... Your remark about the Arabic men chasing you immediately brought to mind the scene in the Raiders of the Lost Ark movie where Marion Ravenwood was being chased through the streets.... I'm assuming you didn't have a frying pan handy.... LOL Anyway, you've once again captured a great scene from a very dangerous part of the world, and made a work of art out of it.

brewgirlca

10:40PM | Tue, 30 September 2014

Oh hell Rod you make me laugh thinking of that scene. No, I did not have a frying pan. Not even a tripod to give them a whack. Just me and my Nikes.

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Cyve

5:10AM | Mon, 06 October 2014

Marvelous capture ... This street scene is really fantastic.

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Chipka

2:30AM | Mon, 03 November 2014

This is another of your stunning shots! You do these so well, and you do them in some of the most interesting places. I love the bits of cultural anthropology you bring into your writing. The image is priceless: I love the sharpness, the business, the name "Bellona" emblazoned in the background. Isn't she the ancient Roman "Destroyer of Cities?" Perhaps that has something to do with the rubble pile extruding itself into the street just beyond the sign: a bit of dark synchronicity there, as well as a common element of human existence. No matter how snooty and self-important we are, we make rubble! There's so much to see in this image and there's so much to enjoy; I love the armchair traveling I get to do, though I much prefer to do the get-on-a-plane-and-go-somewhere traveling, but until that time comes, I'll enjoy meandering through your gallery. (And don't you just love the names for places in Turkey: there's a lake called "Van" and there's a small city [somewhere in Turkey] called "Kars" pronounced like the automotive contrivance, and yet another city/town called Batman...well...that's how it's spelled, but I'm sure the pronunciation differs.) Anyway, I adore this image and I love the gritty reality you capture. It's nakedly human and that's the best part.

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TomDart

8:40AM | Wed, 21 January 2015

As I follow with your words and images, this journey through lands either in the midst of tragedy and danger or on the border of that so closely it creates a shiver.. I am captivated by the culture and the story so wonderfully told. I have had internet contact with a young man deep in Palestine during a time of heavy conflict yet we each showed a basic human desire for many of the same joys and dreams. That was some years ago but I am carried away beyond distance and time to these places you visit and describe. You have done and excellent job of this, both in photographs and tales of where your gut feelings were at the time. This may seem trivial, but I wonder what sort of brew will be on your table when you return home? How will that compare to beer in a "no alcohol" politic.


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