Okay... Another scene file that's been sitting on the drive... Since October. So here's "Danek" who is back in the previously-clearanced products promotion. Seeing him in there reminded me that I never rendered out this test scene... What can I say other than I find working with "realistic" characters increasingly boring. This guy is pretty nandsome, don't you think? Doesn't totally get rid of M4's dough-boyishness, but it's a nice start. I found it much easier to get "masculine" faces with M3 (but I usually did my own dial-spins). Other credits. M4, Basic Wear (Daz), my own shader for the ground plane. Rendered in Poser Pro 2014. No poswork except sig. Thanks for looking.