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Originals Vs Postworks

2D Fantasy posted on Jun 24, 2017
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What this is about (for those interested)... Occasionally some of you suggest that I'd have a better picture if I removed this, or included that...Sometimes you'll find a favorite out of 3 images in a montage, etc. I appreciate all your comments and suggestions, and I often agree. But let me share a thought on that. Above are the originals for my last 3 uploads: You don't have to ponder: Just glance. (Zoom is better for details.) They're SMALLER than the uploads, but they make the point. As you can see, the first two are based on originals which are plainer. I post a lot of originals, so I also love to transform them. In this case, rather than toss the originals, I changed them. Some of you might say: "But we like the originals better!" That's fine! I'm just exploring. For me, it's part of the messy process of being an artist. Am I happy with every result? No. But not everything I post is a 'final statement', for lack of a better word. I take heart in the fact that many masters created lots of works which were experiments. For me, I like it when all of you post explorations and works that were alternates, experiments, even mess-ups (to your eyes). For me, it's part of what we do. Some of you do complete series of explorations---new techniques, trying out, exploring---and I love them. I love them right alongside everything else you do. In the last 2 images: The top one is the original---it had no "frame". Did I feel the frame was a better? No...I was exploring frames and layers. In fact, I thought of posting the original another time. The postwork was just a version.... Any of you who've had the peculiar experience of classical training know that it's not only extremely demanding, but it gears you towards "definitive statements". I'm not knocking that, as my training was invaluable. (I started in classical piano, and wouldn't trade it for anything!) But I also need to 'not' make definitive statements. I'm presently sending writing to journals, publishers and foundations (for grants), and it's tedious and very detailed. So when I'm done, I like to mess around. A few of you have seen my longer serious writing---which I can't post due to space, etc---so you know how serious I am about it. I'm just grateful that you accept my non-finished work alongside my finished, my less-thought-through pieces along with my more-thought-through. I need to do both, and I thank you for taking them in. I'm not unaware that they could use changes, believe me. I just need to do both. Thanks for reading. Have a fine Sunday, everyone, Mark ---------

Comments (17)


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Faemike55

6:42PM | Sat, 24 June 2017

My opinion: the thing I've learned about art is that it comes from the artist's heart and soul and it is subjective. It reflects on what the artist feels at that time! Theoretically art, in any form, is to evoke an emotional response from the viewer/ listener/ reader. if there is no response of any sort, then the artist can assume that the message did not get delivered or was lost in translation from the artist's soul to the recipient's soul. does this make the artist's work any less meaningful? to the artist, No!
what you've shown us here is a transition from a base to a new view. Some people want to see the original with no frills attached and others want to see what is next. the question in their mind is more, what will he do? What can I do?

So, Mark, do what YOU like with your photos and words! They are yours to share as you wish. If people cannot understand or will not take the time to understand an artist's heart and soul, then maybe, just maybe, they should go into a cave...

Sorry about the long post but for some reason, this just pushed a hot button I didn't know I had.

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eekdog

6:52PM | Sat, 24 June 2017

Continue with your manip Mark, it shows a different vision of the original. Art is acomplished in many ways. And really like your visions you share my friend. Art is from the heart and mind, and don't mind viewing yours. Enjoy the rest of weekend my friend and thanks for sharing your thoughts and art.

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LivingPixels

7:00PM | Sat, 24 June 2017

Its all part of the process of creativity I am just happy to be a sharer in that process whatever you do Mark. I always find it interesting nice imagery here my friend its great to share thanx!!

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bakapo

7:45PM | Sat, 24 June 2017

I don't believe there is a wrong way or a right way to experience art. all of it is a personal expression of the artist, or the recipient, at the moment it is experienced. as an artist, Mark, you have the right to share your world or feelings with us or not, even if it is a work in progress. how you experience life is completely personal... no one can tell you how to do it and no one can tell you it's wrong. I, personally, love the way you see things and I love the way you think. keep sharing, it's good for all of us.

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RodS

12:51AM | Sun, 25 June 2017

Perhaps I'm just a bit "wishy-washy" as they say (just who are they anyway??), but I honestly like both versions of all 3. I guess I'm just easy.... LOL

Seriously, I've always viewed this thing called "art" as an open door to do whatever the artist wishes to do with whatever subject matter and medium is at hand. Is that open-ended, or what? For me, the most enjoyable and satisfying part of creating an image, is the process of experimentation... How would this look if I did this? What if I do that? And the beauty of this digital medium is the limitlessness (is that a word?) it provides you with. It's a tad difficult to do most of these 'visual experiments' with oils or watercolor.

Anyway, I love your experiments with your photos, as well as the originals. It's all a treat for the eyes. So keep 'em coming, Mark! ๐Ÿ‘

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durleybeachbum

4:07AM | Sun, 25 June 2017

It is all to do with "Joy in the Making". Although sometimes it can be more like a painful birth!

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giulband

11:48AM | Sun, 25 June 2017

The theme is the same as I just represented in my last picture, I really like your interpretation. I feel more effective than mine, because through the use of different images, I think it's possible to go through broader horizons than my single image. Good artwork tal learn me something.

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alida

1:52PM | Sun, 25 June 2017

what is art? they say it's what your eye sees

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helanker

3:12PM | Sun, 25 June 2017

Its mostly to have fun with what you do and one can see the fun you had and I still love the results of the fun you had, but i love the originals too. Iยดd love to see more Darkroom fun :-)

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auntietk

4:03PM | Sun, 25 June 2017

I love seeing originals, manipulations, postwork, whatever. It fascinates me that I can look at someone's work, understand how they did it, set out to do something "in the spirit of," and still come up with my own style every time. Art isn't about what's produced, it's about the artist. Their mind, their soul, their unique vision of the world. And I remember when you first got that little camera from Helle, and you send both of us a bunch of "crap" pictures, and we both had the same reaction and chose the same pictures to use, and came up with TOTALLY different images in the end.
Here's Helle's: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1984351 and here's mine: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1980340&user_id=481818&member&np (fortunately, I had this in one of my albums, because the search feature we have now would have never pulled it up.)

Looking at the three examples above, I can tell you that in all three cases, I would have done something different from what you did. All that tells me is that we're different from each other as artists. But if we were exactly alike, one of us would be unnecessary!

It's fun to look at other people's work and think about what I would have done differently, because it gives me different stuff to think about. :)

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wysiwig

6:12PM | Sun, 25 June 2017

I agree with what Mike and Tara wrote.

The play "Julius Caesar" is a cautionary tale about what can happen when violence is used to bring about change. Its critics complain about the violence and miss the point.

Sometimes art says more about the viewer than the artist.

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bmac62

11:09PM | Sun, 25 June 2017

If a person's art is singular...one way, one style, one take, nothing new, no experiments, isn't he/she stunting his artistic growth? I like what Michelangelo had to say on the matter, "The greatest danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark". I need to experiment more! Excellent piece Mark.

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Freethinker56

8:17AM | Mon, 26 June 2017

Yes I love your experiments and what you do Mark. I am one of those people that press buttons .๐Ÿ˜ I can show you but as technical jargon no good at explaining thing's. It feels great when you find and learn new thing. Take care Cheers โ˜•

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Cyve

8:52AM | Tue, 27 June 2017

Fantastically well done my friend !!!

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romanceworks

10:35AM | Wed, 28 June 2017

For me, artistic expression, however it is expressed, is a good thing. I tend to be a little obsessive about wanting the art to be perfect (in my eyes) before I show it. I'm learning to be more adventureous and brave and just let it go. So I admire your ability to experiment, have fun, chill out and just share it. I really like both versions of everything and particularly enjoyed the third abstract.

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flavia49

11:50AM | Wed, 28 June 2017

fine work

steve2

12:26AM | Sun, 30 July 2017

These are great !!


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