Thanks for the feedback on my previous image it was very helpful, now I have a new computer 64 bit, not a 32 bit anymore, I am trying Daz4, not Daz3, I have a 32 inch HD tv as my monitor that is only a few years old, not a 15+ year old lcd tv as my monitor and it is all taking a lot of trial and error to achieve renders, I jumped in the deep end in a way by trying to use Iray for everything and using the new type of backgrounds that seem to be hidden until I render, same with the lights that come with them, In my last render I should have just loaded and rendered the results may have been better, with my old monitor everything was super bright and I needed to darken rendering down, my new monitor the colors are bold and clear and now I am adjusting to how my renders look. This render is of Me again and I did not change the settings that came with the background, I have some new Iray shaders that I tried on the car paint though and the render looks a little bit more balanced, still so much to try and learn, I do not think it matters that I used the Iray renderer (catalyst) that is for Iray furry critters, it still uses my render settings I think, just trying too much too quickly I think, I need to slow down and take smaller steps, thanks for looking love Kiiko.