so been doing some pretty heavy re-learning, pretty much everything ive been using has had a major update which is awesome. zbrush, 3dcoat and character creator, all of which i have been focusing on recently. after about 20 some odd years, finally decided to customize my zbrush ui and holy shit what a friggin difference. using ive been exploring new features and tools, and i cant believe what ive been missing out on all these years. anyway, youd think after 20 years id have something better to model than a slug, lol, but it was like a first REAL time use of zbrush, VERY refreshing, from zspheres to dynamesh, zremeshed and uv-ed, then into 3d coat to paint the textures... i like how it came out and the way it renders in 3dcoat, im trying now to get a better render out of carrara, the transition and translation is not so easy... these shots were rendered in 3d coat... will post more soon...