So is 25 minutes to render a 800x600 normal? My HW is I think above average (AMD FX-8350 octo-core, 16GB RAM, GTX650 with 384 CUDA Cores). I do drop DS's task priority so I can use my system while I wait, but that only seems cause a 20% hit or so. Building up skills - including a dForce draping and add an old Poser runtime! Still very shaky in how lighting and cameras work. Feels I'm back into 2008 when Poser6 renders took half-hour (P2014 would have done this 800x600 in ~10 seconds). Fortunately, the result is much sweeter. The gal here is G8F Lara, from Thorne - one of my all-time favorite artists! Anyone remember Aiko3's Miette? Miette sucked up a lot of CPU cycles before I retired A3! The scene is Nike's Art Corner, designed for P4 in 2007. I was impressed the floor looks good, & the silks are of course psuedo-draped in the OBJ, so really the old way this was done! :-)