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USE OF AI TO ONE WHO IS ALREADY A DIGITAL ILLUSTRATION PROFESSIONAL (part two)

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WHAT IS THE USE OF AI TO ONE WHO IS ALREADY A DIGITAL ILLUSTRATION PROFESSIONAL? - SECOND EPISODE (A PRACTICAL DEMONSTRATION) After my first post on the subject (see my recent posts( here is the second installment of the series. As already said I seriously believe that the crusade these last days against "artistic" AIs is dictated solely by a momentary hype due to the fact that dogs and pigs started using them thinking that this supposed "democratization" of the creative medium, allowed anyone to make masterpieces by writing two lines, but so it is not. When this hype passes, to use AIs as a tool (which is then what they are) will be only professionals and those who have discovered themselves as well-rounded artists precisely through the use of AIs and who will probably also technically expand their boundaries. So when the hype passes, what will be left of "artistic" AIs and who will they really be useful to? In this post I demonstrate what AIs can be professionally useful for a digital illustrator who in theory would not need them because he is capable of doing them independently. Let's assume that I am the art director of a science fiction video game, or movie, or TV show (but I could simply be an illustrator as I am or a or a cartoonist looking for ideas to develop) and I need to quickly get concept sketches of spaceship crew uniforms, concepts from which to be inspired, develop, or have further developed, if not also concepts that might already fit as they are. Once I am more or less clear about what kind of uniforms I need for my characters I prepare a precise written description of what I want, and then, as in this case, I can ask the Stable Diffusion AI (but it could also be another AI) to provide me with visual concepts based on my ideas and in a few minutes I get some interesting results. It's basically like I have a team of concept artists working for me. But a team of concept artists, of course, not being the CEO of a video game company or a film production company, I could never afford the services of those artists. In the image, four uniform concepts, among many provided by Stable Diffusion on different descriptions I provided. My request to AI was only for the production of sketches, not final illustrations. Please note: such images could also be used by a writer or screenwriter to visually elaborate the characters in his or her stories even before they are written. Processing time 5 minutes.

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brain1969

5:31AM | Fri, 23 December 2022

hi, I think that is not the question here at rendO ... I see Renderosity as a portal for images rendered ... whether in Poser or DAZ ... the scene we designed, with objects, light, figure and pose ... with AI it's all different and not your own ... write down a few words and bang a picture is not what I understand under own art ...

I still love well rendered images preferably as realistic as a photo ...

duo

5:53AM | Fri, 23 December 2022

I really think you are confused because you are unprepared, even culturally and perhaps technologically, for this technological and even artistic frontier. You really confuse the "style" with professionalism and the artistic intent of the artist with the media. Anyway a professional commercial illustrator, is not only one who is "good" (there are millions of really good ones in the world), but is one who strictly adheres to the client's breaf, is able to quickly change the work according to the client's new instructions, is reliable on time and delivery modes. For this reason alone, less good artists work a lot and very good artists earn nothing from their art. You also forget (or pretend you don't remember) the whole history of art, especially that of the 20th century (Duchamp, Pollock, Warhol...) and that is why you confuse artistic intention with media.

Since the mid-20th century it has been clear that the artist has no ethics about the medium he uses to express himself artistically, and so an industrially produced bottle rack becomes a work of art by changing the meaning and context of the object (see Marchel Duchamp). Jackson Pollock's artistic greatness lay not in his randomly produced stains but in his artistic choice to choose the "right" ones for him that must be made public. If professional ethics existed in art, commercial and non-commercial (it's not like we are doctors!), then the widespread stock art market, where artists' images are also used commercially by millions of other artists, would not exist! All figurative art from its origins to the present is the result of an artist who was inspired by (and more often copied) the style to the works of others and in this process put his or her own spin on it. It is in this way that art and artistic styles have evolved over the centuries, so let's not say ridiculous bullshit! If copying an artist's style were a copyright infringement, there would be millions of copyright infringements "by style" every second in the world even without AI and there would be billions of them concerning the ENTIRE HISTORY OF ART! Not to mention the BILLIONS of fanart out there! You wanted the extreme democratization of the creative medium so that just about everyone could produce passable art in some way as an alternative to artistic elitism? AIs are the obvious consequence of this democratization, so what are you complaining about? But I know why you are complaining...if these AIs had been expensive, difficult-to-use applications reserved for the elite of artists who invest heavily in their tools of production then you would not have raised an eyebrow, and instead now anyone can potentially produce work that to look at is shoehorning in well-paid professionals... that's what really gnaws at you....

In any case, the Australian Arts Law Centre makes it clear that while individual works of art are subject to copyright, the stylistic elements and ideas behind them are not. Otherwise similarly, the Dave Grossman Designs Inc. v. Bortin case in the United States ruled that copyright law does not apply to an artistic style. Ergo: those who take issue with hypothetical copyright violations concerning style ARE TALKING ABOUT NOTHING and ESPECIALLY from a legal standpoint!

In addition, many of the features and possibilities currently present in AI applications will be increasingly present in future versions of Photoshop (a software everyone uses professionally) starting with the next version. Will you really continue to use Photoshop and not take advantage of the new possibilities given by the AI built into it, out of ideological point-scoring? You honestly cannot subtend such a hypocritical argument. By the way, I personally do NOT care how to get out of the databases that feed art AIs, but I absolutely do care HOW to get into them! After 20 years of working as a professional digital illustrator and literally THOUSANDS of images I've created that can be found on the web even with just a simple Google Images search, it would be EXTREMELY COMFORTABLE to me if an AI could generate images exactly with my style, and then be able to rework mix and match them and integrate them with "fresh" stuff of my own. You know how convenient that would be! And I would not be violating anyone's (by the way non-existent style) "rights", even ethically! Unfortunately, I have not been able to find this information anywhere so far, so if anyone has suggestions on the subject, I will be glad to hear them.

Also, if I were the style "seed" of an AI my name would be known worldwide by everyone who uses AIs and also outside the the mere AI filed! You know what publicity! I certainly would not complain because "the original" is only me and if you want the original you can only ask it to me and I of course charge you very highly for it. It is the same difference that goes from brand-name items to Chinese copies, which are often qualitatively equal to the originals, yet there are many people who are willing to pay high prices for original products that are identical to copies!

Anyway more than useless "NO's" now would really need some very thoughtful "YES BUTS," but such an attitude is too structured and common-sense to be paced by people who always prefer the superficiality of immediate, hot-headed judgments made at the drop of a hat, and the convenient simplification of Taliban kind of bias seems to be obligatory in this century. Who knows then why the Talibanization always comes from people who generally don't really know a shit about the thing they are opposing - in this case very often people who have never seriously, perhaps even professionally, and extensively used an artistic AI - and with arguments heard somewhere by someone.

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uncollared

7:12AM | Fri, 23 December 2022

I'm just here to look at the pretty and cool pictures. LOL

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brain1969

3:23PM | Fri, 23 December 2022

AI is for people who can't create ART themselves!

duo

1:44PM | Sat, 24 December 2022

I can create art by myself (browse my Renderosity gallery since 1999) but I usa also AIs as an art tool like 2D or 3D digial art. Why not?

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brain1969

2:26PM | Sat, 24 December 2022

Indeed there are so many fantastic images in your gallery - i am honest i love so many of them


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