hi all just a quick post to let all the novices like myself know that I have created a few tutorials for people who are interested in learning how to paint in 2D , I have never been able to create 2D artwork before and I tend to use bryce or photoshop to create my work but I found this application called naturepainter and developed these six easy steps to create a good landscape take a look and let me know what you think , even the most cack handed person like myself should find it real easy to create good art with just a little practice. ps. I need someone who knows how to paint to show me how to create waves on the sea or crashing on the beach ,it would be much appreciated but take a look at the site first to see the sort of basic level we need. thanks grissle.