You dishonor us you sound more like an anti-American You disgrace us all you should be ashamed X4

why dont you send this to the victims of 911 and get their opion ? Be sure to put a return address

Thank you for you viewpoints. But remember America has invaded more nations in the past few years than anyone else, you have killed more civillians than any other nation. You honestly cannot expect to do these things and walk away with a clear concience. Instead of sending this to the families of 911 as you sujested maybe it would be better sent to the families of those murdered by America's War on Terrorism. AS FOR THAT WAR - REMEMBER... YOU were convicted of International Terrorism in 1986 by the world court... Don't believe me check out the international court of justice records of it http://www.icj-cij.org/icjwww/icases/inus/inus_isummaries/inus_isummary_19860627.htm and then tell me that the American Way is just. and for the record... I am not a Muslim, but you seem very eager to paint them all with the same brush, the next thing you will be rounding them up and putting them in camps (oh.. sorry you've already done that 'Guantanamo Bay') and now I hear your gonna execute them. Sombody else had the same idea as you - HITLER!

I don't know who or what you are, but you're defenitly not a citizen of the free world. if not for the united states our world would allreadyy be long gone. You really need to be ashamed of yourself...

"Free world" HA! No one is free now. War on Drugs, war on terrorism: WAR ON PERSONAL FREEDOM! Glad I live in Canada where freedom actaully means something. Nice work X4!

What would you suggest the US do after 911? Nothing? You MUST be an Al Gore supporter. The worst response to terrorism is to do nothing. No, not all muslims are terrorists, but the militant muslim is a fanatic and you absolutely can not back down from them. This picture shows your capabilities as an artist but that's the only compliment I can give you. You certainly don't sound very American to me! You sound more like "daeve" the Canadian big-mouth.

In response to Amanda: America has done nothing but clock up the body count by supporting and arming terrorists. They have done more damage to the free world than anyone. In response to OritH PLEASE YES! sombody send this to Bush and let him know how the world see's him and his country. In response to Daeve: Thanks, glad I am not the onlyone being branded insane for thinking the USA is mad for invading random countries In response to JK Bryce: If I don't sound american thats because I am English,what should you have done after 911? you should have looked at the reasons it happened, why did they pick america to strike at? Should you really be meddling in other countries internal affairs and not expect reprocussions? To Great Gonzo Thank you contriversal artis not dead it is alive and well and living in the UK.

It's not anti-American to speak your mind and show what you feel through art. Freedom of speech and expression is one of the founding principles of the United States. That's what freedom means. Just beacause you don't like it does not mean it's not artistic, or expressive, or untrue. Good or bad, by the rules laid down in our own Constitution, he should be permitted to express his opinion. just as each of you has the right to say how bad you think it is. Many nations around the world are pretty upset with the United States. Yes, we as Americans took out and aggressive dictator, but in my honest opinion we did it for the wrong reasons. many of the leaders of the US are corrupt, greedy bastards. Unfortunately they are incharge and they have fair control of the media. So although the average US joe has the best of intentions, I often question the intentions of our leaders. X4, I think this is a fine expression of the troubled times we live in. Keep up the good work.

I agree with Eromanric. As an American, I am terrified of the destuction that Bush can bring about during the course of four more years if he is re-elected. He is using 9-11 as justification to aggresively further his own imperialist agenda. He is bankrupting this country with his Iraq war (remember the 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' were never found) and tax cuts for the wealthy. If Bush is re-elected, I would seriously consider emigration to Canada, if they'd have me. It's been said that Canada embodies American ideals much more than the USA, at this point in time, and I tend to agree with that.

So I guess that by your own twisted logic, if an American who is pissed off at your statements knocked you on your ass, you would only reflect on "why" it was done, and do nothing in response? Sounds like a real pussy to me. Sorta like this guy named Chamberlain not too long ago. As far as the "World Court" goes, there really isn't any reason at all that this country needs to listen to anything they have to say. I suppose the bombing raids by the RAF in WWII didn't kill one single German civilian either. I suppose the thousands of Canadians who flock to this country every year must be leaving for SOME reason. Wonder what that could be? As far as WMD goes, if he didn't have them 6 months ago, he sure as hell would have had them soon enough. It's patently stupid to keep worrying if we find them or not. Saddam, the Al Queda, PLO, you name them, they're terrorists and they need to be exterminated.

I am really curious as to why my first comment no longer appears here.

I assumed you had deleted it, I didn't (and cannot), it must be one of those strange renderosity things.

It used to be that an American could voice their opinion and right or wrong and it was no big deal. Now say something against America even if its right, its considered an attack. Almost sounds like the 50's again, except now instead of Communist you now can be a "terrorist sympathizer" or a "handmaiden to Saddam". Heaven forbid if you see or hear something that gets you to thinking "You know, my country's leaders might be making a mistake". I agree with the caption, could use some of GOD's grace, wisdom and mercy.

Interesting... So, if we follow Amanda's line of reasoning one cannot be a "citizen of the free world" and criticize US foreign policy at the same time. I am getting the picture what patriotism means to Amanda but I am wondering what Amanda would say when asked to define what liberty actually means. Apparently her answer would not entail criticism towards her own government. I am sure Hitler and Stalin would love this idea of liberty. Her statement "if not for the united states our world would allreadyy be long gone" is perfectly correct. We live in a world heavily shaped by the world's only Megapower. A world which carries on without the approx. 12 to 16 million souls the US military killed after 1945. jkbryce's observation that X doesn't sound very American to him leaves also some interesting questions. Are we to expect a consciousness test now about "American-nes"? Will we have to amend the TOS with a section on un-American affairs? And you can really always count on Seven Wolves LOL!"As far as the "World Court" goes, there really isn't any reason at all that this country needs to listen to anything they have to say." Hey Buddy, I appreciate your opennes but please do me the favor, don't ever talk of "rogue states" again without naming the good ol USA first. I guess people from Colorado simply must be Americans by blood (pun intended) and don't believe in anything than the law of the west: might is right and West (i.e. US) is best."As far as WMD goes, if he didn't have them 6 months ago, he sure as hell would have had them soon enough. It's patently stupid to keep worrying if we find them or not." Yeah, who needs a justification if he knows at the bottom of his heart that his folks always were, always are and will always be the "good guys". Rules are something for people with inferior firepower, I know..."they need to be exterminated" brings it just full circle. Then the the Arapahoes and Cheyenne at your squatter-doorstep in Colorado, now the muslim peoples half a world away. Some things never change ... Or will they?

Reply to Cinema4duser: Firstly thanks for the points on the picture, you are right on all of them, the piece was actually put together in about an hour and is more of an emotional statment than a technical masterpeice. Anyway, firstly lets address the 6000-8000 dead estimate, used in conjunction with 'fewer casulties' this is the kind of thinking that America seems to have ingrained into it's nature. These 6-8000 faceless people are actually REAL people, look at you wife, father. mother, friends, because these people were REAL PEOPLE, not just some statistic! As for if we woke up tommorrow invaded by another country who would come and help... Well I am sure America is just begging for another opportunity to get involved in another war it dosn't belong. (How come you did't rush to Chechnya's aid when Russia invaded them) probably because every war that America picks to get involved with is with a weaker opponent that has no chance of fighting back and winning and Russia had maybe had a little too much fire power on their side while Afganistan and Iraq had crumbing military stuctures recovering from drought, war and civil unrest. Can anyone name one war america has gotten involved with where the result was not a forgone conculsion? (with the excetion of Vietnam)

Don't forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I've found a site out there that "justifies" the bombs saying that before them the japanese were hostile to the US (please STOP calling your country America. America is much bigger) and after Japan became a frienldy country. I'm not sure if much more people follows that guy's theory of the "friendly bombs" but that MASSACRE can't be justified and it's only comparable to the jewish holocaust, the sovietic political persecutions, the southamerican and african dictarorships, the muslim fundamentalist states and all the crimes against humanity of the history. NO ONE IS INNOCENT.

Well, I must say I am amazed that this image has been here for a while now and is still getting comments and I agree with C4DU thatthey are civilised. (maybe there is hope for mankind). Well I just hope that in some way this helped to people to see things from a different viewpoint (good or bad) and that the world does not stop at TV, I will admit that there are worse countries out there than the US, but at the end of the day I think the point is made. War is real and it affects real people (like you and me), it tears people and families apart and the is NO EXCUSE for it...ever. Don't be a sheep and remember that whatever the goverment tell you there is another side. Ask questions, like 'WHY'. On a related note why not find out why Iraq invaded Kuwait in the first place... No one no matter how wacko wakes up one morning and says 'I'm gonna invade (insert place name here)' whithout some fore-thought, you will have to dig back a few decades before the first Iraq/Allied war. Have funand remember to think for yourself. Thanks for everones iput so far. - X4

"Don't be a sheep and remember that whatever the government tell you there is another side"..... just because i agree doesn't mean i'm a sheep. And don't believe every thing you see on TV either ;)..........Why Iraq invaded Kuwait in the first place"...if memory serves, I could be wrong, Kuwait once was a province of Iraq and he felt he was simply reclaiming it. He successfuly invaded kuwait, it was that he was continuing on to Sadia Arabia that proved his threat. As to just waking up one day and deciding. Remember Kuwait loaned Iraq a Shit Load of money for his little 10 year 400,000 casualty war with Iran and they had started asking for their money back, and they were fucking rich with oil. Saddam was counting on Kuwait and Saudi Arabias week military and that The Paper Tiger wouldn't get involved and he could snatch up a nice piece of land. Sound familiar France. Keep in mind, we loaned Europe a shit load of money during the "european war" and only Finland ever repaid and big bad U.S. never called it in..... so I guess Iraq can fall under one of the countries that's "worse than america". Are you saying that Hussein had rationally thought out invading Kuwait, Iran, and Saudi Arabia, and the US Congress didn't? (they voted for the war, bush had to ask permission from our then liberal congress). As to there being NO EXCUSE for war ever. That would only count if everyone in the world were as rational as you and I. If someone unjustly attacks you or a friend you have an obligation to fight back. People forget that america has been at war with Iraq for over 10 years. Those no fly zones were solely the duty of US and britain, those were our planes being shot at, and they kept pushing at the boundaries set at the "end" of the first gulf war. The war hadn't "ended" for more than a week and they were shooting kurds from helicopters. America spent 85 billion dollars and 50 - 100 dead americans to "contain" Saddam. I agree that 50 - 100 dead americans is favorable to 1000's of dead casualties of war... but what about the 100's of thousands that died in the interim. While we patrolled Iraq, we were responsible for its behaviour, in a way we were enabling his regime. While he lived lavishly and filled the mass graves. If there was another solution than war, it had 10 years to show itself. Nobody cared when it was the US spending money and risking life, we were at least kind enough to give Saddam 48 hours to leave and avoid war. Now, we could have just left. But we remember how Iraq behaved last time it was unsupervised. To quote Blair, "i think history will forgive us." To quote Spider-Man, "with great power comes great responsibility." Hey X4, just trying to keep your the discussion on your piece thriving. But i'm telling you, Jdams, and Patriots. :)

Either way, we would be better without war, you cannot argue with that. Sorry for the late reply, busy at work. In answer to C4DUsers earlier question, 'Poser5' 'Photoshop' 'Terragen' mainly with some other bits thrown in if needed.

Well, interesting debate here.... Anyhow, I like the way this graphic sets a mood!

How many had to die for America to becoem America? Some will die, but to better the world.

Seven wolves is pissed of because he cannot figure out "why?", so he wants to "exterminate" first, and think later. Sounds familiar.