Just a quick tutorial for people new to Bryce... If you look at the image above I will go through the steps I used to create it.. all done with Bryce presets.. 1. I started with the screen setting 640*480 and a Armageddon sky it's in the Bryce skies presets...move the sun down to the bottom of the ball after you return to the main Bryce screen. 2. I then textured the ground plane with a silver preset you will find under metals. To reflect the sky... 3. I the created a cylinder and textured it with the same silver... enlarged it to fill the screen and moved it back just abit.. 4. Next I created a Torus with the same texture...enlarged it alot and rotated it to face the camera... 5. I duplicated the Torus twice once to the left and then to the right... duplicating it uses the same texture. 6. At this point you should have something that looks alot like this. 7. If you have Poser I took a Poser4 male and went to walking poses another preset. and saved him as an obj file. 8. Imported the obj file into Bryce and textured with another preset.. try the terracotta under simple and fast I use it alot for flesh tones.. (see my "Kajira" or "Silent thoughts") 9. I then took the figure and rotated him to face me.. then moved him forward and to the right just off the screen you will see his relection in the image you just created. Duplicate him and do the same on the left. so what you are looking at is a relection of the sky and the figures facing you but out of camera sight...I did add some radial blurr in photoshop using masks and layers to increase the effect... The most powerful tool in Bryce is your mind and your creativity...never forget that.. welcome aboard :) JM any questions let me know...