"oooooooooo" thinks gremlin, "witchy is having a team meeting, and she made Christmas cookies for everyone to munch on. She'll be distracted with everyone talking about what they're going to do for Christmas, I bet I could sneak a cookie, and she wouldn't even see me." "UH OH! She's reaching for my cookie!" ~*~*~*~*~*~*~ St.Parker did this really cool render and he was kind enough to put up the camera info on how he got the point of view. Seeing his art, always makes my mind churn, and try to start thinking "outside the box" (as he says). No wonder Wolfrose's work is always outstanding. Living with someone like StParker, must have her brain in overdrive. (*Giggle* amoung other things) OK, I didn't use the exact settings, but it did give me a starting off point. It's not what I had in my head, but it's close. Doing this one render, has helped me so that I think I might be able to do the other pose. Ok. All the credit stuff... *G* there's a lot of this and that's :) V3 started out as mutedbanshee's Chocolate (the character I usually use for my 'witchy' self :) Jewelry: Pentacle earring by Robin Woods (Till we meet again), bracelet is Baron_Vlad_Harkonnan's Vampirella (I really need to get solitary's jewelry pack :), I'm really sorry, I don't remember where the Ankh came from :( I had downloaded it before I even had poser (YEARS ago) and THANK goodness for StParker (again), because I forgot I needed some sort of table, and, again, something I had downloaded long ago, was his Bar and textures (maybe he'll put it back up on line for download, if you ask him real nice :) Everything else, from cookies, hair, t-shirt, rings and of course, the naughty gremlin, from Daz3d.