some of us are happy that our canidadate won-this is a cinema forum not a political one

Captor213's comment is a good paraphrasing of the Bush foreign policy & illustrates perfectly what's wrong with it. The idea that the U.S. is superior to the rest of the world & doesn't have to give a crap about anyone else is an incredibly arrogant & dangerous point of view & one that will ensure that we continue to live in a state of perpetual war. When will we evolve beyond this primitive attitude?

Interesting idea. The shadows could do with a little work. Yes, this is a cinema gallery, but if someone decides to make a political 3D pic they should be allowed to do so. I also believe that at least some of the comments left should relate to the 3D pic and not just personal rants about the U.S. of A.

The official website of Canadian immigration received a 300% increase of visits from Americans the day after the election results...not too coincidental. To folks like "savzac" I would suggest learning a little about history and who (think U.S. and Britain, primarily, but I wouldn't let all of the rest of Europe slide on the responsibility either) made these "terrorists" what they are today. Let us not forget who armed Saddam while he was fighting the Iranians. And PLEASE let us not forget who trained and armed Al-Quida and Osama Bin Laden when they were fighting the Russians. If you teach your dog to bite, don't be suprised when he relieves you of your hand....

Sorry to add to this political tangent- I just can't resist: savzac: Thousands of what the media has labeled "insurgents" (Iraqi citizens defending their country against hostile invaders) are dying, not Al Qaeda. The Bush administration hasn't once explained what the h_ll Sadam Hussein had to do with Al Qaeda, because the answer is nothing. Meanwhile a very comfortable OBL is broadcasting propaganda across the airwaves. Hmm, how much money did the Bin Laden family and the Saudis pump into this country? This idiot in the White House has me embarrassed to be an American. And this elitist "I don't give a crap what the world thinks" attitude WILL come back to haunt us when we come down, I guarantee it. It's every country's right to defend itself from attack. But if a burglar breaks into your house and rapes your wife and kids, don't go next door and shoot your neighbor.

OMG this seems to be a political forum. Better I return to enjoy surreal images. Great polemic image!

Ok folks....first of all...i don't hate Bush-voters...i don't like BUSH....and i've posted my picture into the gallery "worldevents/political"...so i think IT IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THIS ART! :-)

What makes you think that we didn't think about what we've done? European leftist arrogance about who we elect is not a trait to be proud of. I refer you back to captor. I think if we tried to meddle in internal European affairs, you'd tell us to butt out, so that what I say to you, and get over it already. Have a nice day.

I agree that that political discussions are WAY overdone here and wish for more ART and less argument. However... since it's been opened again: Europeans wanted Kerry because he was a weak willed man they could manipulate. I'm an american. I do care what Europeans and the rest of the world thinks, and I listen to their opinions. But I don't think that many of the Europeans and others take seriously enough the threat of Islamofacism. Simply "wishing" for peace and trying to talk nice to terrorism has never worked in the history of man. Regarding comments that America has created their own enemies by arming one faction or another in the past -- that's like getting angry at someone for not 100% predicting the future. The allegiances and treachery of the the middle east have shifted like the sands for millenia. The parts of the world that have never known freedom, only tyranny and fuedalism, will not change overnight, but need a chance to do so. As for Europe, I think it is you who need to awaken and deal with reality, instead of constantly dumping on the U.S. for taking action. Your governments made secret deals with Saddam and violated UN sanctions regarding oil-for-food programs and weapons. Your hands are not clean in this affair either. War is a horrible thing. But being killed by terrorists is too. They don't want peace. They want Israel destroyed, and they want the U.S. to suffer for opposing their theocratic tyranny. These desires haven't changed at decades of useless UN talks. But they do understand force, and it is past time to apply it.

Thank goodness Bush won. I agree with servo. We have tried peace. Now it's time to give the terrorists a piece of it back.

Well produced picture. Ignore the personal attacks by the right wing extremists. They will never change anyway. The only thing I would disagree with is that while Bush has caused havoc, terrorism and bloodshed over the last four years, and I'm sure the next four too, I don't believe a right wing candidate like Kerry would be any better.

With DETERINATION there is PEACE. WIth weakness there is DEFETE. Maybe we should have left Hitler alone?

Ok folks...you are right and i'm wrong...sorry about that....let us see what we can do against terrorism. Here is an interesting webside... http://www.usmc.mil/ What you Bush-voters have to do now is just go there and sign in...please sign in...do it for your country...hhh...do it for Mr Bush....yeeeehaaa....lets go to iraq and kill some terrorists...pow, pow, pow....yeah...that's it....please Peggy Walters...go to the marines and give all the best you have to Mr Bush....go and search Mr Bin-Laden there...oooh...i guess....Iraq is the wrong country....baaa....doesn't matter....there are sooo many terrorists to kill...enough work for years....OK Peggy...do the RIGHT thing and go to fight.....but imagine....Mr Bush gives a shit about the soldiers who gave their lives in his personal war for oil and money....if you don't believe me...go and talk with some soldiers who came home as broken people...injured for the rest of their life....ask Mr Bush why this soldiers have to fight for every cent....but first things first.....as a good American as you think you are it is your job to support the troops...so go to the army and sign in....and...later we talk again about Bush and his war against terrorism, OK? And in Iraq you will get a copy of "Fahrenheit 9/11"...it is a bestseller in the troops...it's almost an illegal copy...but ey...you are far away from law....please watch this movie...but don't say after watching this that you don't be able to know about all these facts about Mr Bush before...

Ok, I can tell alot of people have mixed emotions about the Art Work. 1st let me say this. One of the greatest aspects about being an american is our freedoms, 1 of which being the freedom of speech, and the freedom of expression. Javic! You did a wonderful job of expressing yourself and your ideals. As for the political aspect of this Art work. Everyone has his or her opinon and no one who has commented in here thus far is wrong for feeling the way they feel. We all have the right to speak our minds. I am happy to see that some of us are standing behind Bush and I am happy to see some of us wish Bush hadn't won. As for that if you voted, and you voted for Bush then you saw something in him that those who did not vote for Bush did not. If you did not vote then you have no reason to complain about who was elected. As for our troops over seas (Many of which are my friends and family) I only wish them to return home safely and alive. I grieve for those who has lost, but I praise everyone of them for having the courage to stand and fight for our freedoms and our rights. It doesn't matter who is to blame, and it does not matter who started, it doesn't matter that we are fighting this war alone and it does not matter if we win or if we lose. We stood up for what we believed weither right or wrong at least we stood up. All of our soliders knew that when they signed up they signed up to die for our country and they all except that with pride and love, because like us they love our country and our freedoms. So instead of complaining about Javics Art work and using it as a way to vent your anger I comend Javic on his creativity and his opinon. THE FLAG SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHING THE GROUND THOUGH. I have served 2 tours in Iraq and I am leaving again in 3 months, and I am proud to do it, and do not question Bush. I love my, family my friends, my fellow Americans, and My Country. Signed: Capt. R. Pensota (United States Airforce)

Sorry...DigitalAwaking...but...you and the rest of the troops are not fighting for the rights or the freedom of the american people...if you want to fight for this you have to go to Afghanistan...there are the terrorists. In Iraq there was only be one terrorist before the army went in...Saddam...well Saddam is cought now....and now you have create the base for thousands of terrorists from all over the world and every day their will be some more of them...and for what???? OK...this was not your fault...but...where is Bin-Laden...why Bush do not really try to catch him??? The people from all over the world can understand why the USA have send their troops to Afghanistan...Germany has send troops too....but iraq will be you next Vietnam...if you can live with it...may it be so...i wish you and your family much luck for the future and with your president....but keep alway an open eye an what your president and his friends are planing....ask about who has a win in this war...who makes the big money with your support and why....and the flag is absolutely at the right place :-))

jarvic, you are so wrong in your statement, "another Vietnam" , not even close, no comparisons what-so-ever. You have heard that from the Liberals and you are repeating what you have heard. Read my friend, read. Vietnam Veterans such as my Uncles, Father and Father-in-law can tell you that it is no where near the same. 5000 dead American soldiers a day was normal in Vietnam, we have lost under 1200 total the whole war so far in Iraq. Soldiers have much more firepower and freedom to use it than they were in Vietnam, geez the list is so long I won't even bother. And guess what all my family listed above and 80% of the American forces fighting in Iraq and Afganistan voted for guess who? George W. Bush, hmmmm guess he must be a man they trust and believe in, read.

Oh Savac....when i say Iraq is another Vietnam, i say it because this is another war you cannot win...and the funniest thing about that is...you should have knew it before...:-) and by the way...when do you think the war in Iraq is over???? And please...don't come with the funny scene when Mr Bush stands on this carrier with this uniform which looks so funny on him...when he declares that the war is over....HA, HA, HA...we can see it every day....so...you don't have to stop the bodycount yet...it's still going on... If you want to know more (i mean facts!!!) about Bush and his war, please visit this...i think you know that webside and you hate it... www.michealmoore.com On his webside you can buy this: Stupid white men - Bowling for Columbine - Fahreinheit 9/11 - Will they ever trust us again (this should be very interesting for you!) and please...don't visit the webside with any kind of hate...just read and think...open your mind and trie to understand "the other side"....and if you' are a really "hard guy" watch Fahrenheit 9/11....it's just to have a new sight on Mr Bush and his friends...OK? Or watch Bowling for Columbine...you will see that in America every year about 11.000 people killed in cause of crime....at 9/11 about 3000 People were killed (and it was horrible of course!) BUT...the man who is to blame for is BIN LADEN and he lives in AFGHANISTAN and he always walks around as a free man...why do you think this is so??? And...who you want to blame for the 11.000 victims in your country...Iraq???? Listen well...America is a very agressive nation...if this happens only in the USA...maybe...tha't's your problem...but if you people think you can travel around the world and attack other countries WITH NO REAL REASONS...then this is a problem the whole world cares about...do you understand this, ey???? By the way...ask Mr. Bush if his two daughters want to sign in for the war...hey...that would be an example...but i think they have other plans. So go to michael and let him heal you...and then come back and we talk about it, OK? :-))

Why do people think that Micheal Moore's films are anything but crockumentaries? The only thing that Micheal Moore is good at is editting his films to make people say things that they didn't. If Micheal Moore had his way the world would be a socialist state, or in a state of anarchy. I URGE people to watch fahrenheit 9/11 but only if they will also watch fahrenHYPE 9/11 as well. If you are going to look at an issue objectively you might as well give both sides a chance. I am not a "die-hard republican," but as an AMERICAN I will stand behind my president in his decisions.

lmao,michael moore this,michael moore that..what a joke.Its all very simple,he's a war profiteer. http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm

great composition

Thank you for censoring!

I live in germany now. If anyone asks,I tell them im a canadian.