revised...True Spirit of the Red, White and Blue by 3DGod
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Comments (55)
Visions540
Wow, you're lunacy abounds. Get out of the country if you hate it so much. We'd be better off without another ignorant hippie running around singing kumbaya and holding handsd and crying. It's time for action. Also, your image is pretty bad as well. Political biases aside...you really show no talent here whatsoever.
kromekat
Eowyn is right! - it seems a certain amount of Americans have no awareness of the world beyond their shores - thats whats always made them dangerous in these situations! - I am saddened to have seen this theory confirmed so many times here in the last week. I can only hope that the people talking such Gung Ho rubbish are juveniles with no real idea of the scale of the situation about to happen rather than intelligent adults!?!? - btw Visions, Hippies are generally not ignorant people, quite the contrary, they are more than aware of the reality of what goes on, they simply choose to speak reason and sense rather than ignorant bloodlust! - There is nothing special about this image, and i see no reason for displaying the US flag upside down either, but its an individuals right to make a statement, a democracy is supposed to be run that way, and in theory, should take notice to the population worldwide that says 'hang on, maybe we should plan what we are going to do before pulling triggers and killing more innocents' - hopefully the leaders will have more conscience than the angry public appear to have.
Spiritbro77
Fine then lets just forget what happened and go back to business ok, who cares that the U.S was attacked. They were right to bomb us anyway right? Oh and we really should have stayed out of World War Two as well. Cool, next time we will , we also wont help to rebuild Europe with another Marshall plan. Yes thats part of history that Europe would like to forget, they obviously forgot to pay us back! So no problem, we will just forget whats happened, drop all the security , open our arms to these terrorists, or would you prefer we call them the good guys?WAKE UP, They attacked us not the other way around.Since when are the terrorists good guys and heros and The U.S.A such terrible bad guys? If you people in other parts of the world realy believe that fine, we wont come to your aid any more. Im tired of being your friend when you need us but sh.. any other time.
namja1955
EOWYN-Your comment about the US delay in entering WWII proves my point. The cause was a just cause, and it was something that ultimately had to be done. Public sentiment at the time really was to stay out of the war. As to your question about how long the war went on before US involvement, how long would have it continued without US involvement. Europe might have eventually defeated the Germans without US help, but would they have survived the development of the V3 and and Germany's fledgeling atomic weapons program? Americans to tend to look at history from their own narrow point of view, but Europeans seems to forget it. All of you people who want to reason with terrorists overlook the fact that even most Arab governments can't reason with them. The governments either end up as a repressive dictatorship or monarchy, or they turn a blind eye to terrorist actions and let them export their hate. We have encouraged the individual governments root out these people, and the result is 6333+ people dead. How many more shall we let die?
mvzear
war IS evil, granted it can at times be a nessasery one, often the lesser of two, but it is never good or just, meary expedient. I'll pass on the flag, I live in a country where the national flag has been hi jacked by extreme fanatics, sad when what should be an emblem of pride becomes an object of shame. Questions for those US citizens who feel so inocent, who trained Bin Lauden? Who armed the Talabhan? I morn with you for the loss of life, but would not want you to compound this evil by by using it as an excuse to commit more attrocitys
jonm1
We have already spilled far more middle eastern blood than we should, lets serve justice to the terrorists, and not more injustice to others.
reprince
I like this one much more than the previous posting. I also agree that war, for the sake of war, is the greatest evil. Sometimes, however, war is necessary. Where would we be today if no one had tried to stop Hitler? I realize that 3DGOD has made few friends with his postings, but to those of you who call him an asshole or lunatic, or otherwise berate him, I just have this to say (and I'm not the first): He has a right to his opinion and a right to express it, and if we try to take that away, we become the terrorists. Over the past few days I've been thinking a lot about the current status of our country and the world. I've also thought a lot about what's been going on here at Renderosity surrounding 3DGOD. I think maybe he should invert the flag in the above posting as it was in the previous version. The inverted flag is a signal for distress. Isn't our country in distress over recent events?
Fillingim
Aye much bettter...though still a political statement in a Memorial section....
itsrainin
you spelled life as live....
KiDAcE
No 86% of the people can't be wrong. Someone (obviously the president) wanted to take actions against the people responsible so he sent troops over. These are grown people making these decisions......I couldn't stop them if I tried, nor would I want to. We have let it slip long enough and look what happened....it's time to send a message back to them. We will flatten your cause before you have the chance to do it again.....at least anytime soon. No you can't ever stop this kind of attack. Think of how many people might have been inspired to do something like that from within any other country....if anything just to make history. You'll always have this but war stops the threat of an attack that might have been planned for the near future. Then maybe we'll be able to intercept the next attacks.....like we did the Y2K threats. For now war is needed because it's the last result. If you really want to analyze it it's we're arresting him but with the military.....we'd rather not fight but he won't come without a shootout...got to shoot back.
themagi
The following steps should be adhered to in the event of happening upon a peace rally, where you will undoubtedly come face-to-face with a naive, hemp-shirt-wearing, misguided idiot. 1) Approach the naive, hemp-shirt-wearing, misguided idiot while he's talking about peace and claiming that there should be no retaliation. 2) Engage in brief conversation, asking if military force is appropriate. 3) When he says, "No." ask, "Why not?" 4) Wait until he says something to the effect of, "Because that would just cause more innocent deaths which would be awful and we should not cause more violence." 5) While he's in mid-sentence, punch him in the face. Hard. 6) When he gets up to punch you back, point out that it would be contrary to his values to strike you (because that would be awful and he should not cause more violence). 7) Wait until he cools off and agrees, realizing that he has pledged not to commit additional violence. 8) Punch him in the face again, even harder this time. 9) Repeat steps 5 through 8 until he understands that sometimes it is necessary to punch back.
lookoo
SurfAce, let me just correct one tiny thing in your very elaborate comment: when the Reichstag was put on fire, the reaction of the Nazis was not to stage a new election but first to ban several parties altogether. With many members of the largest non-banned party (the social democrats)already arrested and an all-encompassing atmosphere of intimidation, the Nazis still didn`t get a mayority of votes (they got 44 % two elections earlier and were already on the decline since then). They never got one. Instead they banned all parties except their own.
Seven Wolves
Just wondering what planet surface and eowyn actually come from. To say that we are wrong to defend ourselves is as infantile an attitude as we could possibly expect from the European-Short-Memory-Syndrom. To imply that the British don't stike back at the IRA is pure ignorance. 'Cpurse they didn't bomb them, but they took out an awful lot of IRA terrorists in other ways. I can only hope that wherever you two actually call "home" takes the next hit and perhaps we can see a different attitude emerge. Oh, and by the way, please don't call on the USA to help you out, I know you wouldn't want our help.
pureflesh
3dgod,I think you'd make a wise president.You're just the man to guide your twisted country.The good guys in the world are very few indeed,but good guys always win.
MannyDib
you are a complete ass complacency is a far greater evil just ask the victims of the holocaust i suppose yould roll over and let people like Osama dictate how we should live and die freedom must be fought for you are a traitor and should be shot
Lightbringer
We should ask ourself the question: "Who is the terrorist in this case? Is it Bin Laden, America or both, and in what extent? I agree with that picture, I'm not American but lived there for a year. Patriotism is a great thing, but to much is not good, and right now there is to much patriotism in America and the people in Afghanistan have to pay for it. Just look at what happend in Germany (where I come from) 55 years ago. History repeats itself, just in a different way. I give that picture not a 1 because it should'n be the worst rated picture ever!
Mycrofted
When he was trying to alert the British to the danger of Hitler in the pacifist 1930s, while Chamberlin tried to appease evil. Winston Churchill said. "A pacifist is a man who accepts the benefits of his society. Refuses to defend it when it is endangered, and then demands to be admired for his duplicity."
SurfAce
OK fine, people. Now, that American bombs have made also 3000 civilian and innocent deads, do you feel any better? Because that's the only result so far of the mass murder you support so bravely. A debriefing in the White House might look something like this. War Objectives: Capture Bin Laden UNSUCCESSFUL Capture Mullah Omar UNSUCCESSFUL Democratise Afghanistan SPECTACULARLY UNSUCCESSFUL Actual state of Afghanistan: Descended into famine, lawlessness everywhere, different factions of the Northern Alliance in control. And now significant sections of the American administration want to spread the war to Iraq and Somalia among others. It is clearer than ever that G. Wanker B. is using the tragedy of September 11th to justify American aggression against countries that they have long wanted to destroy. And 86% of americans are dum enough to support the first serial killer that will sing them god bless america. And let me remind you, self centered morrons, that on sept11th, 35000 children died of starvation in the world, and you don't give a fuck. I don't see a fucking picture for them in this gallery. Just stars and stripes and hate. I have nothing against american people but now, their reaction disgust me. Where I live, we had to deal with terrorism for decades, and we never did it by slaughtering innocents. And thank you Eowyn, for reminding us that the late involvement of America in WW2 doesn't justifie anything, especially not another slaughter. Until Pearl Harbour, American motto was "Better Hitler than Staline", and they would have supported Hitler as they supported Pinochet ( 11th of September 73, by the way) if it had served their interest.
platinumdragon3d
Alot of you people out there want to comment about how wrong war is and all that other hoopla. War is real it always has been and all ways will be. For all those who want to live in happy land: jump off a bridge and hope theres an after life. Further more, I was there on Sept.11th when the towers came down and I witnessed thousands of my fellow Americans die like those before our time did so some of you losers can grow up in a place were you can speak your mind, make pictures/artwork and comments like these here. Now that the time has come to fight not only for your own freedom but, those who walk next to you in the street or, those who you pass by in a car (your fellow Americans), ect, ect, you want to cry no war. I have one thing to say to you...GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY or as they say don't let the door hit ya were the good lord split ya!!! I think you are cowards and selfish. If I had one wish it would be to drop you un-patriotic fruit loops out of a plane instead of the bombs. Perhaps the best way to send our enemies to hell is to send you idiots over there so you can poison them with your wonderful ideas of no war. PS: Just remember too: you cant do art like this in a place like Afganistan. Its considered evil. Its punishment is death.
Kiasyd
ANTIWAR site: September Eleventh Families for Peaceful Tomorrows http://peacefultomorrows.org
kaaos
"War is real it always has been and all ways will be" let's nuke us some peace!
SaiyaRob
"Nuke us some Peace"??????? Yeah thats the right way, nuke ALL people in the world, because when there are no people anymore, there cant be any more enemys... SurfAce, your speech is something real in all this patriotic racistic selfish and ignorant shit.
geygey
Bravo ! You are a curageous person. I'm happy to meet one of the 14% of American who can see farer than the top of their nose. How many guys use their brain to try to understand the tragic evenements that occur every year, every month, every days. 11/09/1973 Pinochet was guilty for thousands persons killed ... Kissinger was responsable. 11/09/2001 Ben Laden was guilty... Who is responsable ? I know you have the answer. Thank you for this picture ! Sorry for my bad English !
sorginye
That image was posted long time ago, but just arrived here and wanted to say something about it. Im not American, but i really felt shocked when i saw the images on TV. Now i think.. hows possible that someone who knows how much suffering involves nonsense death of hundreds of innocents can want the same for others? Im not an expert at politics or such things, but i just wonder.. what the secret services are for? I think Bin laden and the ones who helped him should pay for what they did.. but war?? what for? In the end who paid? Innocent people whose lifes where tough enough b4 war. Here in Spain weve been suffering for years terrorism from ETA (a terrorist group from the Basque Country). What would you think if we started killing all Basques? Im pretty sure the answer would be "that is not fair".
Mouse474
war is the cure of evil :D some people just live in a fantasy and need the real cure to awake thy self ... so re-evaluate your thought process... thank you.... p.s. ---- or join the army ( they will re-evaluate your thought process for you ) GOD BLESS AMERICA :D