OK I take it back about people not using Vue to render poser, there are some wonderful examples right on this gallery page!!! But it seems not as much as I would have thought.

Awesome!!!!!!!!!

Both Images are wonderful .........however, I'm not sure if this is due to rendering in Vue or just the image itself, there seems to be a dark line around the outside of the image of the girl. It especially shows up around the hair. It ruins the illusion of the girl BEING in the image, rather it looks as if she was pasted in. Just a CRITIQUE. Your learning and believe i have a long way to go myself so from one learner to another, your doing GREAT.

hmmm yes there is thanks for pointing it out, I will have to do some experiments to see where that is coming from.

Without knowing what you did in postworking it's hard to comment on technique. The lower one is too dense in the shadows to print well (always my standard, perhaps not yours). Frankly, as to post work in general, it's a silly argument - if one is working for a client with deadlines you do what you must, assuming eating is a priority. One thing the 20th century taught artists is that how you get to the image, thru what process is very important to the work of the artist -it's a zen thing kinda' - but the end, the final artifact, well it just doesn't matter how the image was created. Those who like to put creativity into boxes of supposed purity just make me shake my head. Do what feels correct, pursue you own visions - there is nothing wrong, nor any great problems with poser figures in vue, and if less folk work that way than you thought, great, more room for your visions! Have fun, ignore the narrow minded. BTW, great work on this, and sorry for the rant, but someone needs to say these things in public.

Ditto Dragonfly2000 :).

This image is very beautiful and it is the main part for me. I think that the used technique is not very important. It is necessary to find the tools which allow, at best, to concretize the image arisen from our imagination. I do not make a post processing, but it is the order that I settled, because I want to express myself through tools 3D, I do not want to make of retouch photo. It is personal, for me, the post processing, it is to cheat an image. I chose "Vue" as the natural light, I think that it is the most adapted product. "Vue" has resources incredible, which I do not find in "Poser". The images produced by "Vue" are very different from those produced by "Poser", because of the atmosphere and from the light. With "Poser", I always have the impression to be in a studio of photography and to supply an artificial image. It is can be for it that many artists produce fantastic images or science fiction, "Poser" is better adapted to it. I have the impression to go out to the open air with "Vue". If characters images realized with "Vue" have fewer success it is only a question of Habits. In the spirit, "Vue" is landscapes, and "Poser" is characters. It can change...

Great points raised here. I sometimes import Poser chracters into Vue and integrate them within my landscapes; the render engine of Vue is vast superior IMHO. Lots more options there as far as lighting is concerned. Check out my gallery for some examples. Just the HDRI, GI, GR lighting options alone is worth a long healthy look as to which path you want to travel. This scene is gorgeous, both pre and post. It's a matter of taste I suppose, but almost any render could be bettered with a few final touches in post for the most part! Excellent work on this!

I prefer Poser for rendering in some instances and Vue in others...You have a lot of lighting options with Vue, but if I can do an entire scene in Poser I will; sometimes it just can't be done as easily and so I export everything and then do the final render in Vue. Both of your images are beautiful!

Beautiful images:-)

Difficult to say which one I like more. I think I prefer the second one, because the mood is more mysterious. All in all a beautiful composition. The dark line around the hair can easily vanish with some postwork. I like to see Poser figures in Vue renders. I would do more, but I am a beginner in Poser. I see no difficulties in importing Poser figures to Vue. Keep on your great work. :)

I think both images are beautiful. I would say render where you are confortable. I personaly am trying to render in vue without postwork right now. That is only because I want to improve my renders in vue and not rely on postwork.I dont see anything wrong in postwork so please dont get me wrong on on that. This is just where I am at in my learning vue right now.I want to learn and take advantage of all vue has to offer before I get into alot of postwork. I think this will be more of a challenge for me to acomplish the level of skill I want to have. Every artist I think have their own way of learning and exploring....I respect whatever method other artist choose to express their artistic abilities and talents.