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Subject: To all Poser 5 users - P5 sys requirments
there are several people here using Poser5 on machines that just scrape the minimum reqs. A dual processor MB won't help poser run any better than a single processor board. You really need to get the fastest processor & the largest amount of memory that you can afford to get a really good performance out of poser & turn off all the windows flashy stuff too.
Please don't get the wrong impresion I'm not getting the dual for poser - That 's nessasary for other things I want to do. But from what I've seen a 500mhz machine will not work. The memory he had in the machine was 512 with nothing but win 2000 and p% on board - like I said - he was just showing me how it would run on a machine similiar to mine. How he set it up as far a mem allocation I don't know. i was only on it for 20 minutes. Once I brought the hair in it froze up. No Props nothing other than hair. I tried it in wire frame and still wouldn't budge. Slow I can deal with, I am now with some of my appz. But not stand still. Thats why I ask what are the TRUE min sys requirements.
Hey, I run P5 on a Pentium III 800 Mhz machine with 256 Mb of RAM, and it runs quite all right. I normally work with a texture shaded document style, and that runs smoothly enough as long as I do not work on scenes with tons of models...hair works fine, etc. Of course a meaner machine would make my poser experience less jerky, but my 800 Mhz machine is up to the job. Hope this helps, Hanz
There are a lot of tricks to speed things up, such as keeping the document in "Shaded" mode (instead of full, "Texture Shaded"). Switching between the Rooms may be a problem with slower machines as Poser has to do a lot of calculating (and rearraging of the user-interface). But, when you go to render the scene, remember that the slower the computer, the longer it will take. By comparison, a scene (1 Vicky figure with clothing with trans maps, 3 lights, and shadows turned on) on my 1.8Ghz laptop: Using P4, it took about 30-40 seconds to render. (Shadow map for light one, light two, light three, rendering... done!) Using P5, I cancelled the render after 5 minutes of "Calculating Shadow Map" messages. I suppose it was using the default FireFly renderer, but I didn't think to check it.
Next week might be another story, but for now I'm still running a Pentium 3-850MHz system with 128MB of RAM, a GeForce2 GTS, and Win98 First Edition. Poser 5 is a bit less responsive than Pro Pack, but with the latest Service Release it has become quite stable on my system. A couple more bug fixes, and I'll be retiring Poser 4 to backup status.
The graphics card does not matter much, since Poser does not use it anyway. I would think that the RAM is more important than the processor speed here. Get enough RAM and you can cope with a processor close to the minimum spec. The dynamic hair, the procedural shaders, the FireFly renderer in Poser 5... They all eat RAM! I also believes that the OS plays a major role here. An OS with good memory handling (Win 2000/XP) can take advantage of the RAM and compensate for a slower processor in a way that Win 95/98/ME never can do.
Serene that's about what I will have after a boost to 800mhz which is the max I can push this particular machine too. Right now I'm running 500 PIII, G-force 128mg and 768mb ram. But I'm not about to put P5 on this machine the way it is. Not after what I saw. And I wasn't running full texture shaded on his machine I tried at first but it was an instant no go, I couldn't even position the posette with out a 30 second delay before it would even allow me to attempt to postion the posette. And to Chrisdmd Poser 5?!? on a dell 650 note book? and an 8mb video, and only 256 ram? Not That I doubt your word but I'd almost have to see that in action to believe it. What did you do rewright the Python software. what did you take out of P5 to get it run on that - with hair dyn?? JohnRender had to shut his down in a render attempt and he's got a 1.8ghz. But okay, tell me how you did it, I'm listening... and we are talking P5 now, right?!?
I agree, from what I was told yes about the sr-2. This thing ran so bad with P5 it was ...it was that bad. So I came here to find out what others were finding. The 20 or so minutes I spent with it was an attemt with a hi res posette and hair no background no ground no clothes no props nothing but bare posette and hair. I shut it down re-attempted a positioning and it wouldn't budge. Or I should say I would have to guess at where the postion of the posette was when trying to repostion it. But hearing this makes me want to re-attempt it. just to satisfy my curiosity. it runs fine on his bigger machine. Heck that's what made me want it to begin with. Big changes over p4.
A nude Posette and some hair is not much for any machine to choke on... When I installed Poser 5 on a 2.2 GHz, 512 Mb machine with Win XP, I could easily handle half a dozen clothed and hairy millenium figures (Mike and Vicky). The only significant difference from your spec is the processor speed, which I think is less critical than the RAM and basic OS architecture in this case. It must have been something weird with that machine... (BTW, I'm up to 1 Gb RAM now, and Poser 5 runs even better!)
Saie, I imported the manniquin figure and put about 20-30 strands on the upper head. I then had it move up and down to see the hair move. I didn't render it just watched the preview in the window in full tracking mode - no problem at all. I will render it and see how long it takes... Admittedly, it wasn't a very labor intensive animation. But I also deleted a figure on startup and alot of the content in the libraries I don't use...so it seems to run quicker, but still not as quick as P4+Pro, but close. Chris
You know - I'm going to have another look at my friends set up and have him re-set up the p5 on the 500 he's got and check it out again, all of you seem to be having such good luck with it. The cost of the pro-pak versis the p5 is irrelavant, especially if it doesn't work. But if it does on an 800, I'd be stupid not to get the p5 versis the pro-pak. sigh - I also have to keep my wits - because I really "want" it to work with the 800 and that's definitly not the way to make this descision. Thanks every-one
Chris - do me one thing - bring in the hi-res nude judy figure and add one of the dynamic hair props for her like the pony tail or what-ever they are calling the hair prop I can't remember and then try to position it using the track ball. Start with full tex shadow then drop down and see how it runs on each setting so I know we are talking about apples to apples not apples to oranges. Thanks
When dealing with hair, RAM can be much more of a limitation than CPU speed, especially when rendering. During the beta phase of Poser 5, I upgraded my dual 533 Celeron from 320 to 576 MB RAM - biiig difference. Now I'm using a 1.3 GHz P3 with 512 MB most of the time - it's faster again, but the boost from 533->1300MHz felt less impressive than the one from 320->576MB.
You need at least 256Mb of RAM to do anything much with P5. But I do get useful work out of it on a K6-III+ 450 with that much RAM under Win2K Pro. My dream system would be two very fast P4 processors on about 2Gb of fast RAM. And the extra procesor WILL help because the OS can shovel out tasks to it while Poser uses one all to itself for rendering, etc. And any serious render will take long enough that you might want to be surfing or doing other work while Poser renders in the background. Hair IS awfully slow on my machine, but if I let it complete it does do it.
Chris:- I haven't tried it recently cos I changed to rendering to a series of .BMP files instead, and collating them outside of Poser. Not an ideal fix, but stable and it works (at least, for me). Rendering with a PIII 800 notebook, 256MB of RAM (I've not had much luck with the hair but not the terrible speed mentioned here).
"Even quicker" isn't a phrase frequently seen in the same paragraph as "Poser 5"... but I'd guess the answer to be "yes" with the REAL answer being "No". I'll clarify that in two parts... 1. If your notebook is using the swapfile/paging to disc/using virtual RAM (which you'll notice as hard disc activity whilst using Poser, and whilst rendering) then more RAM would likely decrease this by providing much-needed real memory, which is much faster than your hard drive. If what you do now, for example, would comfortably fit in 384MB then the PC wil ldo it grudgingly with 256MB of real RAM, but will eaily do it more quickly with 512MB of RAM installed. 2. If you add memory to your notebook and Poser 5 gets quicker, you will add to the complexity of your designs until such time as speed returns to "merely tolerable" instead of "pleasantly fast" - because you can! The way of Pseronal Computers since the early to mid 1980's :)
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I have P4 and was giong to get the P5 as apposed to the P4 pro-pak. Now it states at Curous Labs the minimum sys requirments are 500mhz and up Pentium class computor for P5 - 700mhz recommended. I have a friend that has P5 sr2 and a spare 500mhz PIII which he installed to show me how it would run - it DOES NOT WORK with that class computor. Looks great, if that's all you want to do - look at it. But once the hair is brought in - it's over. I can go up to an 800mhz on mine before a new mother board is required but since I'm saving for a dual processor MB - I don't want to buy two, one for now and one for when I can afford the dual. So it's been shown to me that 500mhz is a totally B.S. min sys requirment. I don't trust CLab's word with 700mhz and my friend doesn't have an 700 or 800mhz machine to show me how P5 will run on it. He goes rite up to a 1.8 ghz. And does anyone know how it will run with 800mhz? P4 runs just fine on my current machine. I can afford to get the 800 chip and P5 but not a motherboard and P5. In summary, what are the TRUE minimum sys requirements for P5. Thanks ahead of time P5 users.