I'm suffering a night of extreme frustration in getting clothing items to fit on my custom Vicky characters. I'm wondering if we could compile here a list of clothing items that have been worked over or created with the Tailor that are available to buy or come in updated form. I'm sure it would help people (and me) in deciding what/how to purchase (or search for as a freebie). I find such great clothing & get so disappointed in being unable to fit them properly. cries

And for Michael/Steph/other Mill. figures too.

The only one(s) I know of are the Outlander suit sets from DAZ.

Why not directly purchase Tailor instead? Besides it's the fair thing to do with the program's creator.

Doesn't work with V3. When I load the cr2 of V3 in Tailor, it gives me an error on line 302. Similar thing with Judy. Maybe some day, Tailor will update to include V3 and Judy.

How is this not fair?? If there is a market for Tailorized clothing - more ppl who are willing/able to use it will buy it. At this moment, I am not able (don't own it) and not willing (don't have time).

I'm not up on what the current Tailor copyrights uses are, but then again - I don't want warez - far be it. It's my understanding that somehow DAZ has gotten control of the sales and specified uses of the program. If the information I wish to have is not able to be gained, then I will be surely told in the course of this post. Otherwise, it's no different than my deciding not to purchase or find a free version of a modelling program so as to create my own figures, clothing or other props. Other people have time that I do not and/or are much more capable than I (and others G) to do such thing and the results of those are what I am seeking out.

LucyFur, if you speak so, then you never tried Tailor. Believe me, the hard and long work, is modeling the clothes. Taylor is very easy to use, and even a "modeling illiterate" can tailorize clothes effectively with very little time and effort.

@EricofSD
you have to save your V3-CR2 in Poser4 or ProPack, than you will get no more errors in Tailor. I think Poser5 has an other routine when it saves the CR2-files to disk, other than Poser4 or the ProPack.

Ron

EricofSD, Crusher0000 is right. I saved my V3 file with Poser 4 and it works just fine in the Tailor. I think you encountered the Poser 5 / Tailor error, not a V3 / Tailor error.

What version are you using? I tried to save mine in Poser 4 and use it and it opened the v3 file just fine but none of the clothes would come in. And Orio you need to realize that maybe some people don't want to deal with using it. I think Lucy asked a valid question. I own Tailor and nowhere in the readme file did I see that clothes couldn't be tailored and sold or given away as long as the person doesn't violate the original creator of the clothes. If it had I would not have bought the program. Marque

Hummmm, just went to check on the version and it's not there. So I guess just Daz sells it now. Marque

Tried it again with version 1.1 which appears to be the newest version, brings in Vickie 3, but when I choose a piece of clothing it says to move the box aside and I should see the clothing match the model, no clothing. Marque

Ok now I found one but it says list index out of bounds. Someone want to point me to a thread that explains how to do this? Thanks, Marque

It is fully acceptable to distribute .cr2's that have been created with Tailor for a clothing object. As long as the mesh is not included, then no copyrights have been violated. RDNA has a number of clothing it has done this to; look at the "Tailored DNA" for 20 or so clothing items that have Mike or Vicky morphs "Tailor'ed" into them. To be useful to someone, however, all the morphs that a person has applied to the figure have to be avialable in the clothes. Either someone has to apply all the Vicky morhps to a clothing item (very tedious), or someone has to specify which morphs have been applied to the figure, and just those have to be put into the clothing item. The easiest is to buy Tailor. It is a very simple program to use, it just takes some time to copy hundreds of morphs. And CodeTwister needs more incentive to continue to work on it, so buying it helpful there as well. In the meantime, Lucy_Fur, if you wanted to post the exact morphs and the exact clothes, it is likely someone would Tailorize them for you.

Lucy if you have a quick look on RDNA they have a section in their freebies for Tailorised clothes.

A list of the RNDA Vicky Tailored clothing (at the RDNA site): Vicky's catsuit Vicky's Gothic Armour Vicky's Starcom outfit Dragonessa outfit Assassin's outfit Dominatrix outfit Cybergirl outfit SciFi Vicky outfit DNA Archer outfit

hehe you beat me to it, I was just on my way there to do that :)

Taylor is designed to take a piece of clothing designed for a specific figure, and add morphs from that figure to a piece of clothing designed for that figure. V2 clothing is not designed for V3, so it shouldn't work. Taylor isn't designed to take the morphs from one figure type and apply it to clothing designed for another clothing type. You can't take dork clothing and add Mike morphs. Taylor is great for adding morphs (like Muscular1 through 4) to clothing that doesn't have them. Very helpful since most clothing for sale is designed to fit only the base figure. Taylor is also designed to work with only P4 file types. The new P5 file types are compressed, and don't read in properly. Saving as a P4 type should correct any problems. I don't believe Codetwister is doing an update for Taylor. I hope I'm wrong. Someone mentioned in another thread that Codetwister thought that dynamic clothing for P5 would replace any need for Taylor. However, since there hasn't been any kind of real output of dynamic clothing for any figure, other than a very view pieces, it looks like we'll have a use for Taylor for quite a while. Dynamic clothing also takes so long to pose/drape, with so many possible problems, that I never use it anyway. Taylorized clothing is often done for specific body variations. There's a set of cloths for Young Comic Hero (Poserstyle Mike variation), Slim Michael, Boris, and a number of Vicky and Stephanie variations. These may or may not have actually been done with Codetwister's Taylor. They just include morphs used to fit the base character's new morph set. Daz also sells a set of modifications to their Mike base clothing that include all the morphs that come with Mike 2. More clothing for each figure is also coming out with more morphs built into it as part of the base. Beastmaster for Mike at Daz has many of the base morphs included. As far as I know, there's nothing that will take a piece of clothing for one figure, and make it fit another.

<<As far as I know, there's nothing that will take a piece of clothing for one figure, and make it fit another.>> I tried this with Tailor - made a whole body morph that turned posette into vicky. Exported teh OBJ, apply vicks' joint parameters and viola! I've convered just about everything from BAT and ISOP into Vick this way. Well I turned my eyes to vicky3. I created a full body morph to turn Vick2 into vicky3 and then rans some Vicky2 clothes through Tailor, and yada-yada.... The results were so-so. Not even worth posting. works OK for loose clothing I guess. But then why bother when vicky2 clothing it works fine for vicky 2- which is pretty good model.

I recall that DAZ had objections to Tailor-ed clothing with Vicki 2 morphs being posted, although that depends on the clothes. Consider: if you dress your Vicki 1 in a catsuit with Vicki 2 morphs applied, you have access to all the Vicki 2 body shapes without buying V2. Off topic a bit: In fact, if you have Vicki 1, Vicki 2 or Steph you can transfer body morphs between them since they're all designed to fit the same clothes. Same with Posette and Vicki 2 P4. Waaay off topic: Something I haven't tried yet: since Mike 2 and Steph are morph compatible, it should be possible to generate a full body morph that would transform one into the other. The Tailor could then adapt one figure's clothing to fit the other one. Mike in a cocktail dress, anyone? blecch :-)

Mike in a cocktail dress would be a tad strange, but I think Stephanie would look great in Mike's clothing, especially the suit pack.

Curses! I've been rumbled! My fiendish plan has been foiled once again! :-)

LordNakagawa, that Posette full body morph you described sounds like something a lot of people with Tailor would love to have. Any chance you could make the .cr2 available via Freestuff?

I second that LordNakagawa!

Personally, I like taylor. Tho I have yet to try it on V3, just about everything I have taylored or attempted to has worked pretty well. I wrote codetwister some time ago about updates and addons and compatabilities. He said he was looking into it. but since he was not sure where poser and daz and all thast were(are) going he was going to hold off till things settled. As far as the daz thing, I tend to thing most owners of taylor has pretty much kept what they taylor to themselves, since whatever they do release will be very very specific to what other people own. Also in some cases a clothing set put in taylor and MT'd up sometimes looks wonky and needs postwork to smooth (because the cloth mesh is a lower poly count than the vicky)

I've found that ANY clothing item can be made to work with tailor, you might just have to play around to fix the problem. All problems I have encountered (I believe on the UD grecian dresses from DAZ) required me to make a copy of the cr2, and use Morph Manager to strip out all of the morphs. Apparently one of them had something different than Tailor expected. Anyway, once tailor produces the morph for your character, you can use Morph Manager to copy the new morph over to the real version of the item. Tailor has some great uses, and some limitations as well (some items simply don't have much geometry to allow big changes to retain their shape, but that's hardly the tailor's fault) I like it, and use it often enough to consider it worth the money. Eric

I bought the tailor back when it first came out. great program. I love how Daz is offering the updates for it free to those of us who bought it at Rendy. Luz, I have the program and if I have the same clothes you need tailorized, I would be more then happy to do it for you. You know how to find me. :P Bri

IT would be nice to compile a list of tailored clothing.... I mean seriously.... with everyone who has tailor... we could combine our efforts and get alot of morphs on alot of clothing. I've done alot of major morphs (muscles, thin, etc.) for various armors... especially Serrge's armors.

Figured out the out of bounds message, I had moved my main poser stuffage to another directory and once I moved it back it came in fine. Now to learn how to use this...along with everything else...lol To be honest, I don't imagine I will regret buying the Tailor program. Marque

The Mike to Steph thing doesn't work with the Multisuit from PoserStyle. I tried :) Some of the older pieces with handcoding make Tailor go boom I've been tailoring the Romantix by PhilC, the Mike and Vik Multisuits, PWFW's Flightsuit, and the TempleGuard from RDNA to both M2, V2 and Roxanne (by Capsces). Slooooooowly, but now I have faster machine it should go better. Capsces has a couple pieces tailored to fit Roxanne's FBMs

I loaded V3 in P4/pp and use it there. The few times I tried to use it in P5 through the P4 runtime library link P5 froze up so I don't use those two together. Definitely a P4 install/save.