After importing the character into Poser(4), I noticed the "body" still had all of the full body morph dials showing. So I opened the hiarchy editor and removed them.

Now, my figure is lighter than before, but she can't fit into any clothes (strange diet, huh?). I tried to conform the SpyWare suit which fit just fine before removing the morphs. But look what happens.

Can anyone tell me what went wonky and how to fix the problem?

I never had any problem with morphmanager. The only thing is that it doesn't handle body morphs. In my opinion (which might not be the most technical here), something went wrong during your edition of the cr2. Hope this helps...

Hm, as far as I know, conforming works by "copying" morph settings from the character to the clothes (at least partly). So you might have destroyed just the morphs that are needed. Just a wild guess. BTW, how did you remove the morph dials in the hierarchy editor? Did the accident with the suit happen after you worked with Morphmanager or after you used the hierarchy editor? Willy

heyas; morphing and conforming have absolutely nothing to do with each other. you worked on the base figure? doing anything to the base figure shouldn't have any effect on whether things conform to it. are you sure you didn't do anything to the conforming stuff? okay, i can think of one thing that will make the base figure cause things not to conform to it: if you scaled it. did you scale the body? did you accidentally delete the body scaling dials when you removed the fbm dials? did you use one of the figure height menu settings (infant, standard, fashion model, super hero, etc)? are you sure you conformed the clothing to the figure, and not the figure to the clothing? (it doesn't look as if you did.) willy: to remove dials in the hierarchy editor, you just click the thing that says 'show parameters' or 'show all parameters,' select whatever and hit delete.

This is the first time I've had this type of problem after using MorphManager. I'm sure it's something I did and not the program, but I'm stumped to think what is different with this session versus any other session. The only alteration I made to the stephanie model is in the face. 1) I exported the head and created a morph target, then reimported it into the full steph model. 2) I saved the model into the character file under another name and used that name for manipulation in MorphManager. 3) After removing the morph dials in MorphManager, I resaved the CR2 and reopened the character in Poser. 4) I imported the clothing figure, selected the 'body' and tried to "conform to" the character. I'll try messing around some more... maybe hide the full body morph dials instead of deleting them... hmmm... frustrating. Thanks for the help. If anyone can think of anything else, I'd be happy to learn from ya.

Anyway... I saved the CR2 as a whole group (clothes included), and ran the whole thing through MorphManager. Seems to work now.

Strange.

heyas; well, it sounds as if morph manager is changing SOMEthing. but darned if i can think what it is. if you have time: try this-- follow the same steps for 1 and 2, and then try to conform the clothing to it before you use morph manager on the cr2. then we can see if it is flaking out before or after morph manager. after you saved the figure+clothing cr2, did you try to open that cr2 in poser, or did you just to to morph manager and back? i'm also curious what might happen if you save the figure and messed-up conformer to a pz3 and re-open it (probably in a new poser session). umm... oh, and another thing; after the clothing got messed up, did you try posing the base figure? wiggling the arm or something? i do know that sometimes when you apply a pose to the base figure, the clothing doesn't follow right away, until you jiggle something. but you probably know that. :)

Bloodsong: THX for the hint. "willy: to remove dials in the hierarchy editor, you just click the thing that says 'show parameters' or 'show all parameters,' select whatever and hit delete." Hm, I see, he's using Poser4 without PPP. I am using P5 - here you can hit "delete" and nothing happens. At least nothing drastic. The morphs and dials are still there. I'd guess, P5 works different. Willy

heyas; oh, p5? hmm. never tried it in p5. you can move them in the dial window thing. did you try right clicking and seeing if you can delete them there?