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Being a newbie I guess I didn't research things enough. I thought Poser and Vue were fully compatible. Then I find out it is Poser 4 that is fully compatible, but not Poser 5. Although you can export and import obj files, that seems clunky compared to what I've heard about Poser 4 compatibility. So I visit CL and e-on websites, looking for solutions, come across comments that Vue can be 'fooled' into importing Poser 5 scenes (without dynamic hair and clothing at least) by pointing it to the Poser 4 executable, but I didn't upgrade from Poser 4, so no luck there. I write to CL asking if there is any way I can get access to the Poser 4 executable. The question is ignored in the reply. I ask again, and the question is again ignored in the reply. I write again, even offering to pay for it but suggesting a discount price might be in order since I have already purchased and am a registered user of Poser 5. Again the question is ignored -- this time by no reply at all. Okay. So that's not going to happen. So does anyone 'in the know' know if there is any real hope that Vue will soon be more, and/or fully, compatible with Poser 5 or vice versa? And/or does anyone have suggestions, or know of any additional work-arounds, or how to legally get hold of the Poser 4 executable relatively cheap, etc., etc. ? Or should I be asking in the Vue forum? Or not even bringing this up at all? By the way, it is not my intention to bash CL in any way. I admit I should've done my research to begin with, and I'm sure they are very busy improving and supporting Poser and such and don't really have a lot of time for petty requests like the one described above, and that's probably as it should be ... but I am, nevertheless, still slightly frustrated. ;*(

Check with Caligari. I just got an advertisement in my e-mail that Caligari is offering Poser 4 for less than $200. Might be worth checking into. Kate

I think it's Vue that has to do the work for the plugin, I could be wrong. Maybe someone here who has both could help you out until they create a new plugin. I haven't tried the workaround yet, just been using Poser 4 because I'm not real excited about the Poser 5 characters. I will check out the workaround, thinking that if you use body mats you won't have to worry about the clothes, don't know about the hair though. Marque

To do plugin work, software companies need an SDK...have CL got an SDK? Not that I know of. Knowing CL, if they have got an SDK, there are probably charging too much for it anyway :o( Don't worry rdf, E-on will get there in the end, although it is mentioned in the blurb for Vue 4 that it is only Poser 4 it supports. You have also got to realise that none of the other P4 supported softwares (Cinema, Max, LightWave), have yet got support for P5. Cheers

Well I hope they can come to some aggreement, would be nice if people who bought Poser 5 could use Vue as well. Marque

I use them together and I kept my Poser 4 installation to hand just in case but I work exclusively from Poser 5. It doesn't seem to be a compatibility issue with the actual Poser 5 file format, this appears to be the same as it imports all Poser 4 specific content without a problem. I would suggest mailing e-onsoftware about this, there may be something in the works to correct this. Best wishes Jody

I think it is a problem with Poser 5's .CRZ files . I tried opening a Poser file in Vue with Judy and it didn't work but I tried opening one with Victoria and it worked just fine . Both files were just a figure only saved from Poser 5 . In Poser 5 I believe that one of the python scripts that came with it lets you uncompress the crz files into cr2 files .

Regarding the Poser 4 executable to which you have to point Vue 4: Try this: create a dummy folder structure, like, "c:Curious LabsPoser4" then create a new file there (may be, an empty file is ok; else copy some other file), name it "Poser.exe" and point Vue 4 to this folder. Maybe this is the way Vue4 can be "fooled". Willy

Try using the Poser 4 Demo. It will expire but maybe Vue won't care.

Not being a Vue user but one thing you might want to try is editing the PZ3 file to reflect ver 4.01 instead of the P5 version. That cures the hiccup when opening a P5 PZ3 in POser 4.

You need a valid Poser 4 serial number in order to import the pz3 into Vue. The Poser 4 demo will not work. There is no way to "fool" Vue. That said - you can import from Poser 5 to Vue as long as you keep Poser 4 on your computer. I have had problems inporting when the files are in my Poser 5 runtime. Since the link to everything links to your poser 4 runtime, you have to manually fine each texture. I beleive it can't find the object files, so nothing imports. I have just recently installed all my toys into Poser 5 using multiple runtimes. I may have to rethink this... Peggy

Thanks for all the feedback. Unfortunately, a good portion of what has been suggested simply won't work. Peggy W got it right. It has to be the valid Poser 4 executable and you have to have a valid Poser 4 serial number. The problem has nothing to do with the file format. It is some kind of a serial number protection scheme. I contacted e-on about it, and a rep said CL had something in the works. When I contacted CL about it, a rep said it was somewhat doubtful that Vue would ever be fully compatible with Poser 5 due to the new hair growth and dynamic cloth stuff, i.e., that it would require e-on to add an enormous amount of code to their software and this rep at least thought that was unlikely to happen. Of course, when customers aks for it, loud enough and long enough, a lot of things have been known to happen ... I have encouraged eon to go for it (i.e., full Poser 5 compatibility), and I hope others will too.