For anyone who hasn't seen them yet, here is the great Mermad tail for V3 and the amazing reef scene - only $1.99 each. This was a very quickly posed scene but the rendering (with shadows and smoothing in Poser 5) took about an hour. I did a bit of post work, including brightening the piccy, adding blue to her hair and her make-up. I am still rather new at this and so am quite pleased with the result - I can't wait to see what you all come up with - Pokeydots has already done a stunner.

Nice work elgyfu. If your going to do more reef pictures theres a modeler named Tucan who had lots of great fish. Bad news is there not boned but they work well none the less.

I got the turtle when I brought these two models. I will get the other fish from Plat Club as well I suppose. Thank you for the tip-off.

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Tucans models are free and in 3ds format , but they import well into poser . There at PlanIt 3D in the Aquatics files section along with some nice underwater plants.

Also, elgyfu said that he was on Poser 5. There's a SETUP room. Shouldn't he be able to pop open one of Toucan's neat fish and move bones over from another fish model before saving it back out? It wouldn't be as precise as twiddling with joint centers and fall-off zones... but with several background fish he wouldn't actually need that much precision to get a couple of bends in the bodies. Is Mitch's site still up? There were heaps of wonderful props there for underwater scenes. Carolly

Mitch's site has been down for months. It is an excellent site - does anyone know when it will be up ?

hauksdottir i do that in P4 pro pac and swipe the bones from the dolphin,shark or angel fish and it works well enough to do what you say with minnimal tweeking. Either that or it kind of explodes all over heck and back again hehe . I even use the wav deformer thingy Geep talked about for the fish . Its puts them into a kind of "S" shape like there swiming or a magnet in the middle and pulled out a bit.

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Hi Guys and Gals I have a set of new fish at PlanIT 3D ready for uploading. In 3DStudio Max you can add a wave deformation and get these little beauties swimming away like mad however would you like me to set up a boned collection for Poser users. Let me know either way if there is enough interest I will get to work straight away (well between other projects). Happy Rendering Daryn

YES!!!!! PLEASE !!! :) Personally i like my fish with the bones still in um , it gives them more flavor :) How about Both fitzy Upload now and bone later . I am not very good at waitng and Daz has just release allot of sea stuff so it would be a good guess that the more the merryier . I am trying to get some models to work on a fish tank with me and have had no " Bites " So far. Its basicaly 4 box primitives made rectangular and the other is a cylandar with the same . My poser learning curve isnt high enough for this unless i spent a week or more on it.

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Hi Tasquah Well I normally prefer my fish boned as I am such a fast eater I prefer not to get a one stuck in my throat. The fish at PlanIT would feel very at home in your tanks especially the circular one. I will post the new ones after I have got some feedback from this forum as they are brand new and I would like to make them as useful as possible for all 3D applications, but at the moment they would really suit max, maya or lightwave users when using for animation work.

How about some picts of them to uhh wet our appitites with :)

Actually, I am a girl. I am named after my 31x great grandmother, St Eglfyi (Elfgiva or Aelgifu), the wife of Edmund 1 of England. Thank you for all your comments - I was thinking of boning the 3ds fishes - strange how that means the opposite of what it does in 'real life'!

Elgyfu, Sorry! I saw the 'el" beginning, and thought perhaps Spanish with the "y" for "and": it could have been short for "the governor and factotum universal" or some such construction. Much better to be descended from a woman of note. Fitzy, There are artists of various modeling and tweaking levels here. Like Tasquah I've slipped bones from one critter into something else when it is good enough... but that wriggling fish escaping from Gollum in the stream (The Two Towers) is far beyond my current abilities. I've also fingered grunion under a full moon; they are a lot more flexible than the overfed critters in aquaria. No matter how or when you release your fish, there'll be plenty of interest in them. Tasquah, Are you opening a virtual fish store for pets or for sushi? Those are handsome pieces of furniture even without fish. Carolly

LoL " I've also fingered grunion under a full moon " I thought you could get arested for doing that. :) it a susi bar , pick your fish and Chop Chop Chop, chows on. J/K its for a virtual fish tank. A bigger home for the new toon fishy ,tucans stuff or even fitzy.

Tasquah, No, you get arrested if you keep the grunion. Catch and release only (quickly). Hands only (you can't even use a net). Silver fish in foamy surf under a bright moon are hard to see in the first place. Once people start splattering around there's as much water in the air as in the tide and the challenge level creeps upward. There is a way of catching fish in a stream by tickling them. Basically you stand there in the water, not moving, except for your upturned, gently wriggling, fingers. Trout will swim into those fingers and settle down. As soon as a trout is relaxed, and you've checked his length against the memory of your frying pan, grab. I taught a hyperkinetic 10-year-old how to do this, thinking that it would occupy him for 38 seconds. Several minutes later he came splashing up with a nice brown trout in his hands. That trout got off lightly, but probably told fish stories all the way downstream about the ferocity of those fingers and the number of small boys he had to evade. Carolly