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Jaqui, That sounds reasonable but the time seems a little off. I started noticing problems friday evening and by 23:00PST it was already on (radio) news. Perhaps there were two or more attacks? I hope that this all gets straightened out soon as it seems that some sites are still under attack. - TJ

it started at midnight eastern time, that would be 8 pm pst. 4 am gmt around 8 am ( I think ) in Australia ~g~ so the times are right, and it could delay significantly in how long it took to affect any particular area.

And how about this opening lead from today's AP news item on the security issue? ******************* SEATTLE - Microsoft Corp. itself was exposed to the virus-like attack that crippled global Internet activity last weekend because it failed to install crucial fixes to its own software on many Microsoft computer servers, according to internal e-mails obtained Monday by The Associated Press. ******************** Their own guys (1000s of them) took a class in writing secure code and maintaining security, and Gates is continually bragging about "trustworthiness"... well anybody running MS software on a server needs to look to the source and ask themselves if they really need to deal with the devil. Carolly the Unamused

Carolly, actually, I do find that amusing. since I don't "deal with the devil" learned long ago that microsoft does not have reliable products. and that microsoft has a policy of writing everything to be "fault tolerant" rather than "Standards Compliant" that is the policy that causes the problems. and since it leaves holes in security, and there are people who enjoy ruining ms based computers that take advantage of the holes, using ms is asking for problems

... and I've been asking for problems that I still haven't HAD any of, for 16 years now.

I like 'fault tolerant' quite frankly. No problems here yet either.

hhmmm, never seen a bsod? never had to re install windows? then you got a blacksmithy stuffed up your butts. not just horseshoes, not just the whole horse, but the entire smithy where they make the shoes.

So your thread was just a ruse to bash microsoft? Shame on you!

no, was to point out why the problems happened over the weekend, and bash the lazy sob's that didn't do thier jobs. ( the sys admins that didn't patch the servers ) if microsoft was standards compliant, then 90% of the security issues and virus infections would not happen. and 120 thousand servers would not have been infected. bad policy on thier part. if sys admins weren't lazy, then 120 thousand servers would not have been infected over the weekend. but I still think it's funny that microsofts own people didn't apply the patch, then the patch to fix the memory leak caused by the first patch

Jaqui, my appologies - I think. but you think mac is safe from attacks? I think that if mac were more popular than the pc that the attacks would be targeted at the mac. further there is no hack that can't be cracked so it might not have mattered - just have took the crackers a little longer is all. It's probably a good thing that the attack came when it did - it could have been even worse - and they will find these guys and cut off their hands or something no question. I'm not gonna cast aspersions when I don't know if the ms people were lazy or just overworked to the point where they couldn't get to it. - TJ

Jaqui, I may adore your wife, but you seriously get on my nerves. That blacksmithy comment was totally uncalled for. BSOD? I got maybe 3 over a period of as many years when I used Win98 and all due to Poser. None under XP. I have NEVER EVER reinstalled Windows and I've been using it for 9 years now. So go stuff your head in your linux machine and leave us Windows users alone.

Spit, and windows xp pro crashed my wife's computer every week until I put lilo into the mbr, win98 would last a month, and it destroyed a hard drive, requiring replacing it. the bank I worked in lost thier computers for a month, because of windows. all 20+ years of using computers tell me that windows is not a good os. you got lucky. you bought identicle hardware that it was compiled on. so next time I hear about critical security risk in windows I won't tell you, let you get your system destroyed. I WAS NOT SLAMMING WINDOWS OR MS UNTIL YOU OPENED YOUR BIG FATHEADED MOUTH AND SLAMMED ME FOR MAKING A COMMENT TO SOMEONE ELSE AFTER THEY SLAMMWED WINDOWS!!!!!

One would think it suffficient for those who dislike Microsoft's products to simply not use them.

I don't and when the slapper worm took this site down for hours by a dos, people were wondering why, I posted why. and said the sysadmins that didn't do thier jobs were at fault. yet that is seen as an attack on microsoft. (because they had 1000 systems get infected?)

Jaqui sed: "you got a blacksmithy stuffed up your butts." Well, Jaqui... You're only immune from it because they don't put horseshoes on a Jackass. (Jaqui-ass?)

Hey guys, I think Jaqui meant well originally in reporting the problem and later became reasonably upset. Just let it go.

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