I've installed the Service for the V3 Male Morphs. Now, if I apply a face (from the Face Libraries) Poser 4.03 generates an error message - 'can't find' and etc. Has anyone either seen or resolved this issue? Thanks,

Here's the problem - in case anyone else runs into it - the message is specific to the heads (as injected in the Faces Library): Cannot open runtimelibraries!DAZVictoria 3DeltasInjDeltas.DC_44_BrowCurved.pz2 (for example) The message opens for each of the face morphs and for the unhide operations. Check the dirctories referenced in the messages and find the line the message references. Note each of the referenced files actually is PBMDC_44_ (etc) Select, right click, carefully rename by dropping the PBM Barb

It might be me thats stupid, but can someone explaine this a bit more clearly. I opend the pz2 in notepad I dont seem to have any references with PBMDC anywhere, but it still wont work. where do I change them.

That's apparently the problem - the PZ2 doesn't include the PBM in the file name, but the actual filenames do so you need to get rid of it from the filenames (as barb did) or add it to PZ2 references.

I'm sorry it's not clear - the references to the file names are incorrect - so you need to find the files and change their names by dropping the 'PBM' part of the name. Read the error messages for the exact files and location. And change the name carefully. Barb

This could take me a while might wait for Daz to do an updte for the Update!

Why was there a need for the update in the first place? The Male Pack worked just fine for me. What is it supposed to fix?

It seems 1) to eliminate expressions from the male fig - and 2) replaces them with actual facial morphs. Also, 3) it places the faces in the face library.

Ok, thanks but I think I'll wait for the update too :) I had already injected them all and saved them as face files for faster loading with my AllMorphV3 cr2 - looks like I'll have to do it again now.

I apologize for the problems. Please, save yourself the frustration and wait until tomorrow [Monday, Feb. 3, MST] to download/apply the update. I'll reply again to this thread once the update has been replaced.

The update files were generated with a python utility I've been writing that parses a cr2/pz2/fc2 and automates creation of 3rd generation Millennium figure poses (including the insertion of readScript calls - for both standard and add-on packs). Over the weekend I've been going back through the syntax and simplifying/commenting it. Anyway, after seeing this thread I took a look at the functions that deal with the male morph pak and found a line that was commented out that shouldn't have been (I must have forgotten to de-comment it after testing another part of one of the other functions). I've since corrected it and run the offending files through again. Problems are gone now, but installers will need to be built at the office tomorrow. Again, my apologies.

The aim of the update is to remove expressions from the character faces (and the time required to load the individual morphs for those expressions). The update is also intended to speed character face loading (by direct links to files in the "!DAZ" folder vice the pose library) and by redirecting readScript calls... allow users to move/rename the default [V3] pose folders (in conjunction with the V3 SR1.1).

-Rob

Rob, Now that you mentioned it. I have noticed allot of the merchants ( Including Daz ) are still useing the old call / script method from the pose folder instead of the faster way of going right to the !DAZ folder . Is this going to be fixed so all DAZ merchants use the newer faster way all the time or am i stuck editing most V3 inj files ? I am starting to get that ugly mess again in my V3 pose folder .

Let me understand better, after the new update tomorrow (SR1.1) we will be able to move all 30 V3 pose folders into a single one in Poser 5? And if I install V3 in Poser 5 (now I installed her only in poser 4) do I have to install her in the default Runtime or can I install DAZ stuff in the "Download" Runtime (given that I leave the !DAZ folder in its place)? Thanks

Even if they do fix it Staby , it means if you move the V3 pose folders with PBoost or P5 you will have to edit all the other V3 characters . Untill all the other merchants and v3 creators get togeather and are on the same page. Good news is its not that hard to do just a pain in the rear, a simple find as replace will fix it. And there are only 3 folders so far to call from.

tasquah,

Using the utility I mentioned, files created by DAZ's production department will make direct calls to the "!DAZ" directory from here on out (as will previously released DAZ content utilizing the technology, via updates; the male pak being the only DAZ created product requiring such an update, post V3 SR1.1). The purpose of said utility is to automate the manipulation of files and insert direct calls. For the sake of consistency/continuity, we will continue to install with the same methods used for the V3 product... only, with the latest update(s) installed, the directories can be renamed/rearranged/moved/etc as the user sees fit.

This topic has been discussed with our brokering department; with a strong suggestion from myself that it become a requirement for brokers as a "standard" 3rd generation millennium figure compatibility. The result of our discussion being that brokers will be encouraged by our brokering department to comply with this "standard".

Our intention is to release the mentioned python utility (PC/Mac compatible) as a user/developer tool once a couple of minor bugs have been ironed out and a quick "how-to" is written. Time-frame isn't absolute, but it should be fairly soon.

Staby,

The production department does not use Poser5, so I cannot speak from my own actions... but tech support now does and Ryan will be swinging by to address that particular issue once he gets a free minute.

My understanding is that the "!DAZ" directory needs to be local to each version of Poser (to prevent long, possibly never, loading times), while the library files themselves can be located in a linked runtime. Again, this is speculation based on the presumed logic behind how Poser5 locates files (beginning in its own runtime first, then linked ones).

For all interested,

The update has been corrected and is ready for download.

-Rob

Rob - Thanks!

Hi Well I got an email reply from Daz saying the male morph pac update has been corrected so I dowloaded it again. But now when I try and install it it says the required file for this update cannot be found. I've got vic 3 base with body and head morphs installed and the latest updates (downloaded today) as far as I know i havent moved anything. Does anyone know whats causeing this.

Plus the male morph pac of course (forgot to mention that!)

Thanks for the replay Rob. I will try to install V3 in Poser 5 "Dowload" Runtime and see if it works.

Hello :o) I have the same problem as artbyphil... I have installed SR1.1 for Vicky3 and the body morphs and the head morphs without any trouble, but I get the same error message for the male update 'the required file for this update cannot be found' ... Can someone help me please ? Thank you :o) Elaine

Thanks Rob.

Sorry about that, I had the installer searching for a file it just got done deleting. I have so many copies of it on my computer that it found it anyway when I tested it. New one's up now. Ryan tech@daz3d.com

Thanks, that fixed it for me!

Hi there, Well I'm really having probs with the male morph pak update I redownloaded the male morph pack update again and installed it (3rd version), now I seem to be getting the same fault as I did with the first one such as: Warning:cannot open runtimelibraies!Dazvictoriavicroria3malepakdeltainjdelta DC_44 browcurve.pz2 a similar message pops up for every morph injection. This seems like the same problem I had with the first version! I know its the latest version because I deleted the others before downloding it. anyone else getting this?

The new file fixed the problem for me also. Thank you :o) Elaine

Hi I had another go at downloading the update and installing it but it still isnt working for me. Just like to ask if the people its worked for have just installed it or had ago at injecting the morphs yet as thats when the problem shows up for me.

Phil, Hi again, which version of Poser do you have? Ryan

Hi Just poser 4.3 Never had any probs like this before

hey art when are you getting the warnig at? loading a face ? and what one ? Or is it from the pose folder ? Again what one are you useing ?

I get the same problem. I had thought all went well until I tried it. I got it when trying to inject the face. I didn't try any more after that. I hope to be able to use the Male Morph Pack soon. I am on Poser 5, but with all V3 files installed to default runtime.

i found the problum , it was in the face files . Like BARB said at the top of this thread. I fixed mine but there is no real easy way to tell you what to do or how to fix it. First make a copy of a face. Lets use the one I did Called " Jeremy INJ.fc2 " You have to open it up with a text editor and tell it to find " DC_ " It has to be a capitol DC with a underscore right after it . When it finds the first one you replace it with this " PBMDC_ " so what you are adding is a capitol PBMDC and a underscore . The tricky part is when to stop . Only replace it if it has " InjDeltas.DC_ " with a " InjDeltas.PBMDC_ " twords the end of the file it finds this " targetGeom PBMDC_ " DO NOT REPLACE THIS !!! hehe told yah it wasnt easy . Back up your face file and give it a go . or wait for it to be fixed .

You could always search for "Deltas.DC_" and replace with "Deltas.PBMDC_" as long as it your editor isn't limited to searching for whole words only.

Folks, it seems as though the original product installers that were made live were the incorrect ones. I, for one, am very sorry [frustrated?] this happened. The update you all seem to be having problems with was built based on the installer that should've been posted (which, for some reason, got lost in the shuffle). The correct installer shortened the file names of the source files (in the libraries/!DAZ/Victoria 3/MalePak folder) by removing "PBM", leaving the remaining characters. Pre-release (intended) versions had "PBM" in the file names but were then removed due to concerns for Mac users (file reference string length)... while still trying to be consistent in file naming. Because most of the files in the male pack are affected by this mix-up, we will be distributing a new installer with all of the correct files to all those who have purchased... not as an update, rather as a replacement.

Again, our apologies... Ryan will be in contact with you.

-Rob

Thank you all for your patience and help in sorting this out. As Rob said, it's been frustrating, especially when you can't find anything wrong on the computer right in front of you, until you go all the way back to the beginning. ( We deleted everything we had on the Male pak and started from the very first installer and were able to find the misnamed files.) OK, so here is the official word (I checked everything twice, this better work...) "Due to misnamed files an update for the Male Morph Pak has been uploaded to the DAZ store. You should see available a new download from your account page to download the complete new installer. The date on this installer should be 02/03/03. Before running the installer please delete the following folders from your Poser Runtime folder to insure only the correct files are on your computer." "MalePak" in Runtimelibraries!DAZVictoria 3 "!V3 MalePak Heads" in Runtimelibrariesface "!MAT V3 MalePak" "!V3 MalePak INJ" "!V3 MalePak REM" "!V3 MalePak CH INJ" and "!V3 MalePak CH REM" in RuntimelibrariesPose Whew, that's all. If you don't see the download on your account please email me at the address below. Thanks, and sorry for all the confusion. Ryan Bouche tech@daz3d.com

I wish Daz could send out an email telling us when updates are available for specific models. I buy a dozen or so models a month and find it impossible to scour each one continuously for updates. This is not a moan but a suggestion, I love my Daz models :)

I was wondering about the need for the service pack as well?

Success Ive now installed the new male morphs and everything seems to be working fine. The morphs seem to inject correctly and It installed all the parts to the correct place (Faces in the face folder etc) so I assume you dont need the update with this version.

Attached Link: http://www.daz3d.com/pages/faq/faq.html

Ratteler & Phil-
You still need the SR1.1 for Vic3Base and Head Morphs. But if you are asking about the Male Pak, no. This one on the store server is the most complete, updated version. The link to the update will be taken down today.

Phil-
Man, that's music to my ears.

Ryan
tech@daz3d.com

ReVan: Thanks for the info, that shows how bad I am at reading newsletters! (blush)