Hi, I have written a small light manipulation script which does the following, may be its usefull for somebody: #Load-loads a special light file from disk - creates new lights and does not distroy old ones #Save-Saves the selected lights from listbox to text file on disk. Does not support pointat at the moment #Rename-Renames selected lights #Dim-Dims the selected light in 0.1 steps #Brighten -Brightens the selected lights #DelInvis -Deletes invisible lights #Reset- Deletes all selected lights Its a dirty hack - I havent tested it neither on P5 nor WIN - so try it out and tell me if it runs. Download the script here....... Enjoy Mungo

Wow! That's elegant code. You're way ahead of me on TK coding, and I've learned a couple things from your code already. I didn't test all choices, but the basic action works in P4 and P5 on Windows. Incidentally, you've found the key to making a script work in all forms. This part right here: def Quit(self): ~self.master.destroy() ~self.master.quit() I had found a much more clumsy way to make scripts work in both, but your way is simple and clear.

do you think its ready for free stuff ? thanx for the compliments - Mungo

Yes, I'd say it's ready. We seem to be working in parallel here; I've just finished, and placed in Freestuff, a similar script that focuses mainly on changing the P5 light attributes. But your basic idea is different.

Id like to continue on the "project collector" see post below. The only thing what is missing for me is how to copy a file in Python. I told this idea long ago to MartinC - he thinks it will prosper copyright violations, nevertheless i will do it. Mungo (BTW - how do you format these posts `?)

Copying a file: It can be done using "os" commands, like os.rename() and os.dup(). I don't see a simple os.copy() in the help files that I have. Alternately, you can read a file, filter the lines to change certain things, and rewrite it under a different folder. (My latest LightPanel includes an example of this, because it is the only way to modify the P5 attributes which are not available to Python.) There is -no- copyright problem with copying a file. If the user tries to -sell- the result of that copying (which he could have done by ordinary methods as well as by Python) there is a problem at that point. But the violation is not in the copying; if that were the case, every computer would be violating copyrights 100% of the time! Formatting here: The convention is to use the tilde ~ to replace a tab for indentation, because Renderosity removes all leading tabs and spaces.