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Subject: how do you make a bust?

bikermouse opened this issue on Mar 06, 2003 · 14 posts
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bikermouse ( ) posted Thu, 06 March 2003 at 8:26 AM · edited Sat, 08 February 2025 at 4:50 AM

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What do you include? Iknow I need to add a neck, but how far below that do you go?

tjohn ( ) posted Thu, 06 March 2003 at 8:48 AM

Bikermouse: I think a bust normally includes the shoulders, rarely anything below that although a bust can taper down from the shoulders to a cylindrical base.

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eelie ( ) posted Thu, 06 March 2003 at 8:57 AM

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Usually, it's the slope of the shoulders down to just about where the arms show a definition from the body. Best way I know how to describe it would be to just about the clevage area. Here's a couple of examples I found online.

Sambucus ( ) posted Thu, 06 March 2003 at 10:34 AM

I think exercise helps. Heehee, sorry, couldn`t resist it.

Rayraz ( ) posted Thu, 06 March 2003 at 11:43 AM

Unless you go for the sexy approach it's enough to go with only the shoulders.

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lsstrout ( ) posted Thu, 06 March 2003 at 12:18 PM

I've found that the best way to make a bust is to be a girl. ;) Seriously, it seems like you can stop at the top of the shoulders or go down to just below the armpit. Some ancient classic sculptures included part of the torso as far down as the waist. I think you just need to show the base as a finished piece so people don't think this broke off of a larger statue. Nice color scheme. Lin

FWTempest ( ) posted Thu, 06 March 2003 at 1:49 PM

take two positive metaballs, knead gently into position, then... oops, wrong bust. ;) had to milk that one for all it was worth

pakled ( ) posted Thu, 06 March 2003 at 2:50 PM

well, if you have your evidence, a warrant from the judge, the perp's known movements, and the element of surprise..oops, must not have read write..yeah, they usually are 'head and shoulders'..

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Zhann ( ) posted Thu, 06 March 2003 at 2:53 PM

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The classic form, both male and female...:)

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bikermouse ( ) posted Thu, 06 March 2003 at 4:24 PM

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Zhann, As you can see I tried to do a bust with just the shoulders but it just looks wrong to me. I'll try with a little more torso or shoulderpads.

Thanks for the pointers everyone - I'll keep working on it.

antevark ( ) posted Thu, 06 March 2003 at 6:55 PM

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This is what a bust has always meant to me- around mid-chest, then the arms cut off a little further up.

Rayraz ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 4:39 AM

The bottom is too flat. You should try a different shape. Like on this image. As you can see it gives a completely different result. Even on a smiple photo.

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Rayraz ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 4:40 AM

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Oops, forgot the image :)

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bikermouse ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 12:03 PM

Thanks Rayraz. Zhann pretty much gave me what I'm looking for, but I'll keep the tapering idea in mind as well as it is a good one. From Zhann's examples It also appears that vertical rescaling of the model(shortening of the neck and head - in the male narrowing of the sholder- in the female enlarging the thickness of the arms slightly) might be in order. Where I was really having the most problem was where to cut it off, which as I can now see is dependant on what you are trying to emphisise. I was also having a problem visulizing what to do with the arms which her examples clarified for me as well. Although eelie's examples show that taper isn't always done, that a sculpter may use the natural taper of the body or a clothes/armor object to achieve this, especially if a taller pedistal is to be used to emphisise the bust(remove it visually from the object on which it sits). Further there may be an inverse proportion between the length of the pedistal and the bust itself. I'll give it another go this evening - this may take a while to get right, but at least now I have an idea of the result I'm looking for. Again thanks everyone, - TJ

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