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Subject: Anton wasn't kidding...


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_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 4:19 AM · edited Wed, 25 December 2024 at 8:32 PM

when he said the new cat wouldn't be exactly 'millenium' level L


PheonixRising ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 5:09 AM

What are you talking about? I never said that. It will be V3 level actually. Lay off the hootch dodger. Unless you mean the Easter Bunny Cartoon. lol

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_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 5:26 AM

Attached Link: 9. Re: For anton and other millenium cat makers... by xoconostle on 3/2/03 13:28

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Xonocostle said, in post 9 at the link: *Anton is taking an extended haitus from these forums. I'd suggest e-mail. He did mention that the cat he was working on won't be "Millennium," which I think meant not quite as complex as people wanted. There was sort of an informal vote a couple of months ago in which most people said they wanted a short-haired tabby. Maybe there can be a fluffy trans map or morph?* So I was taking hisOrHer word for it! Honest! But I was talking about this cat -- the newest one I've seen from DAZ. B^)


_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 5:43 AM

Cool. And fluffy?


PheonixRising ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 5:43 AM

Oh I see. Was worried there about a flood of hate mail. I get it now. No I don't think I said that though. Our goal from the beginning is for it to be Millenium. I think what they refered to was that the cat would have to be shorthaired and not long haired. If even possible, a long haired cat would have to be a different cat product. Never saw that post before. Thansk for heads up.

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RHaseltine ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 5:44 AM

Crossed wires then - I thought you'd been trying to damp expectations too.


PheonixRising ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 5:46 AM

no no. People will loove it. Working hard on it. Morphs are just taking forever.

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_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 5:56 AM

If even possible, a long haired cat would have to be a different cat product. A recommendation: a long-haired coat conforming clothing item for a short-haired cat.


_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 5:58 AM

Can't load it through hair though. Can't smartparent a figure. I tried it. It works, but then if yuo delete either Poser locks up. at least 4.0.3 does.


_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 5:58 AM

Damn, I'm still here.


PheonixRising ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 6:19 AM

It might be possible but the geom intensive morphs on the long hair figure could cause problems.

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TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 6:33 AM

Couldn't it be done like some sort of transmapped hair figure? Just covering it all. A conforming hair so to speak? Not sure if it would work but what do I know L Not much about hair at least. But it outta work. Ah well, those long haired furballs aren't as pretty as my darling shorthairs anyway ;o)

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 7:24 AM

Hmm, I have to disagree, ernyoka1. Some long haired cats are beautiful. My long departed friend, Scruffy, was a very good looking cat. He had the regular "pointed" face of a short hair, but a very long coat. I'll try to dig out a pic to show you.

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Momcat ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 7:32 AM

^_^


TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 8:09 AM

SamTherapy G I am sure to get an angry lynch-thirsty mop running my way if I ever said it aloud in the cat-newsgroup I also belong to, but... although there indeed ARE some beautiful long haired cats, they're few and far between GG

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 8:15 AM

ernyoka1, I have to agree in general; most of 'em look like they have been smacked in the face with a shovel. :) But - ugly as they may be compared to other, "prettier" cats, I have yet to see an ugly cat. There just ain't no such animal.

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dreamer728 ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 8:19 AM

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my long haired cat is pretty :-) meet oliver...


Valandar ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 8:44 AM

I dunno... most long-hairs don't look like cats, they look like paperweights in a cat suit... they tend to just laze around. Shorthairs are more active, and more intense, IMHO

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MallenLane ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 9:08 AM

While I think its possible (probably) with the new cat mesh to fake the "volume" of the long hair, it wouldn't really look good I think. And I am not a fan of transmapping vast surface areas, because its impossible to get every camera angle, morph, and joint compatible. So, no long haired kitties until we have an actual fur renderer at our disposal. = ML


LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 9:16 AM

Ooooooo...I love my long haired kitty. She's a Himalayan with blue eyes and a sweet little teddy bear face :o). It is true that my short haired, plain ole alley cat is much more active. He's beautiful too :o). Love my kitties better than people...LOL. Laurie



RHaseltine ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 9:17 AM

Of course what the cat will really want is a conforming hare.


_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 9:35 AM

You havent met Runtephant. She's the textbook 'cute kitten' -- this cat could pose for annoying posters and calendars. She was born to a mixed litter from a shorthair stray, and she has a shorthair body and face and all, but she has long hair. Actually, she has two types of long hair. I don't have a picture though because for some reaosn they never turn out (of her, the other two cats photograph fine). Audrey suggests she may, in fact, not really be a cat, but instead a carnivorous dust bunny. She doesn't meow (she occassionally makes a half-meow whisper when she's really freaked out. One. Never heard more than one at once, and I can count the number of times I have heard that on one hand). She does, however, purr so loud you think someone parked a Harley in your driveway. Of course what the cat will really want is a conforming hare. I'm guessing you meant to spell it that way B^) but I beg to differ. Hares are bigger than bunnies, and grown bunnies can usually kick the shit out of most housecats. I have a friend back in Philly who has two rabbits, Zoe and Josephine, and an adopted alley cat, Sarah. Sarah gets up on top of the furniture when the bunnies come out because she's been kicked before and has learned. One of these bunnies is half her size -- no Flemish Giants by any means.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 9:47 AM

Yes, I know a hare would be OTT for a cat, ours always took babies. Mind you, one of the visitors from along the road recently crouched down and started stalking across the lawn into the corner, from which a pheasant emerged (about six inches taller than cat), and our late cat was quite prepared to entertain predatory thoughts about a goose that landed on the lawn, at least until it started prodding her bottom with its beak.


MallenLane ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 9:49 AM

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I think we did a great job of capturing the essence of "cat" in the new model. =) What do you think?


LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 9:57 AM

Shite Michael, that's freakin' awesome. But something tells me it's not your kitty ;o). Laurie



MallenLane ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 9:59 AM

doh... it was that winning gargoyle smile wasn't it? Those brite shiny yellow teeth do it everytime.


jaybutton ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 10:19 AM

Hurray! I am glad to hear the Millenium Cat is still in the works! I also think MallenLane's "kitty" looks awesome! Kind of reminds me of the gargoyles from the orginal Ghostbusters movie, particularly in the body. Jay



MallenLane ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 10:25 AM

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Maybe this is a kitty? ML note: kitty is subject to change, so please don't get out the pitchforks.


LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 10:29 AM

Nice!! It doesn't look like an alien (unlike the current Poser kitty) ;o). Laurie



MallenLane ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 10:32 AM

Hehe.. well I'd never really looked at the Poser kitty until this project. Quite a scary...er mixed heritage.


Chailynne ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 10:42 AM

Looks good so far. LOL Are you going to include a fat morph? I have an 18 lb furball here. ;)


SamTherapy ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 10:56 AM

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Here's the late, lamented Scruffy.

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 10:57 AM

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Here he is again.

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brycetech ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 11:02 AM

dont know what all the excitement is about cats... they really don't taste that good. lol kidding I love cats (I have two) and they rule the house (and they know it) The cat looks pretty good. When its released, I may see about putting fur on it with a conforming fur figure. BT


SamTherapy ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 11:03 AM

_dodger - most cats can kick the $h!t out of anything short of a much bigger/heavier carnivore, and even then, they'll give most of the rest a run for the money. Or maybe Brit cats are just plain mean. :) You would be, if you lived here. :D Worldwide, Felis Cattus/Domesticus is the most successful predator.

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Caly ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 11:33 AM

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I don't like 'exaggerated' kitties. Like the Persians that are bred to have that squished face, the poor things have health problems. I don't really like the exaggerated new Siamese, with the extra long extra skinny limbs. I love the old style with the heavier build... I love delicate pointy faces on cats, but I have to admit I love long furry tails... So I have both, a short-hair tabby and a Main Coon. :)

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CryptoPooka ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 11:43 AM

Change your Coon to grey instead of black, and that's my Zamboni -- except that Zam is about twice that size. Freakin monster.


SamTherapy ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 11:56 AM

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This, however, is a pic of the coolest cat who ever lived. This gent was known as Wobble, named after Jah Wobble of Public Image Ltd.

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melanie ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 12:24 PM

Those sphinx cats are so weird looking, but they do have gorgeous eyes. Sheesh, I see they don't even have whiskers! LOL Melanie


EricofSD ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 12:46 PM

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RHaseltine ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 12:52 PM

SamTherapy - too true - our last cat weighed seven pounds and chased off a full size (if young) fox and I've seen the local ginger tom trying to shred the ears of an adult fox (which also ran).


Chailynne ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 1:49 PM

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LOL These are my two. Smudge looks more like a small dog than a cat now, but is dumb as a cow (and sounds like one too when he runs down the hall of my trailer!) But I love the big lug anyhow. My Goober is the opposite and is very smart and sneaky. Hard to believe they are siblings. ;)


capsces ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 1:57 PM

Ooo, I think Michael's gargoyle kitty would make a cool Sabertooth cat. :) Beth


MallenLane ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 2:03 PM

lol, thats actually what cats look like. That comfortable facade is just a mental projection for when you are looking at them. Now you know what your pet fish and bird really sees....


Redfern ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 3:10 PM

Thank you, Mr. Lane, for giving us this first glimpse at the new Poser compatible DAZ cat. If it uses a mapping scheme similar to Victoria 3, it should look fantastic with minimal texture distortion. I can see that it uses the transparent outer shell for the eye like all other Mil' figures. I also notice you've included the brow whiskers as well as the ones sprouting from the muzzle. If I'm not mistaken, do I see a faint suggestion of claws just peeking from the toes, claws that will sprout and retract with the turn of a morph dial? I would be so annoying as to ask when it will debut. I'm just glad to see evidence of its progress. Thank you both for accepting this project. Sincerely, Bill P.S. Now, can I bribe you to fuse elements of its geometry with that of Victoria 3? We'd have the ultimate anthropomorphic felinoid!!! ;-)

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Kiera ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 3:30 PM

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Seriously glad DAZ is working on our animal issues. =) I hope the cat sells well enough to bring us dogs, horses that can graze, and perhaps a really nice wolf. =)


_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 3:50 PM

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Runtephant


_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 3:52 PM

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Runtephant pic 2


_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 3:52 PM

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Squabley Squabertson


_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 3:54 PM

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And Jael'in the Chicken Cat As long as we're supplying reference here. B^)


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