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Subject: Memory usage on importing pz3 files


gerberc ( ) posted Sun, 27 April 2003 at 11:33 AM ยท edited Sun, 12 January 2025 at 7:48 AM

When importing the second dragon rider (as pz3) for my latest work (see http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=388557&Start=1&Artist=gerberc&ByArtist=Yes), Win98 claimed that there is not enough disk space to complete the operation and Vue crashed. Each pz3 file only had about 9 MB and I have 512 MB RAM + 1 GB swap space. When checking with the resource monitor I found that approx. 700 MB (!) of swap space were used to import just one dragon rider. Strange ... Although it's not a real problem (I just had to leave Vue and reboot the PC after importing each pz3) I wonder why this happens. After all the final Vue scene has only about 25 MB. Is it a Win98 problem? Has anybody else made this observation? Regards, Christoph


gebe ( ) posted Sun, 27 April 2003 at 11:43 AM

I did not have this problem with my 1G /512 Ram machine. I had often another one in this kind of situation: a popup showed up with only Vue d'Esprit and OK written on and I had to restart Vue or (mostly and) my machine, because Vue freezed. Then I closed all my residential programs before I started to work in Vue and it did not happen again. Guitta


MightyPete ( ) posted Sun, 27 April 2003 at 12:53 PM

Not enough disk space is from it's trying to make the swap file bigger and it's run out of room on the swap file drive. Remember this file can grow to 4 gigs max on a windows machine. Hmm. If you had some program like memturbo you could do a memery deep clean before you start up Vue and it would free all most all memory first. Check your swap file drive and make sure it's not running out of room. Like delete the trash and crud out of temp and crud out of IE temp folder. Like I mean really clean it. IE's got a habit of not even showing you it's there. You usually can see the folders though. Delete the folders on the left in file explorer that you see inside Temp Internet folder with funny make no sence names. Reboot.


gerberc ( ) posted Sun, 27 April 2003 at 1:18 PM

Thank you for your quick answers. Of course cleaning the hard drive and provide more swap space will solve the issue to a certain extent. However, my question is rather why does importing a 9 MB poser scene into Vue consume approx. 700 MB of swap space. I'm not a computer expert but this looks like an enormous waste of memory and doesn't make any sense to me. With 512 MB of RAM there should be no need to use swap space at all. Just to compare: with POV-Ray I made a scene containing 25'000 copies of a 1 MB tree mesh and my computer did not use any swap space or compalain in any other way. Anyway, being pragmatic I will follow your advise and provide more swap space for future poser imports. Regards, Christoph


MightyPete ( ) posted Sun, 27 April 2003 at 1:54 PM

Well some meshes are compressed on save. But you can't render them like that. Displacements would be the solution to that problem but that idea is not used much yet. If you want to see expoding meshes try LeoCad. ie: one lego button is used but in a 3d app all the round buttons have to be there. Those meshes are rather hard on Vue. The huge meshes anyway. I had to import them in pieces.


Spit ( ) posted Sun, 27 April 2003 at 7:48 PM

It's the textures.


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