Just spent a few hours on nothing. Creating a sword fighting scene(animated pose if you will) in P5. I've gotten into the habit of saving my work as I go, as one must while working in P5. But as luck(my luck) would have it, a couple more tweaks and I'll save, turned into another 40min. At this point I decided not to press my luck so I went to save my poses when BBBRRRRIIIIPPP Poser farts and I lost my work. Disappointed as I was, I decided to try for round two. I got my characters loaded, applied the "untweaked" pose to the one, no problem. Clicked on the other, applied it's "untweaked" pose, and wouldn't you know it was the pose for the first character.
So now after a few minutes cursing at the monitor, and explaining to those I awoke that there is really nothing wrong, I sob quietly.

Tonight I'll pray for a functional version of Poser5.

Pray hard.....pray very hard!!!

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how is it that poser is at fault here... doesnt look like you were doing anything out of the ordinary. maybe you were pushing your system or theres a config/memory issue you need to resolve. whats your paging file size? how much ram you got? what os? whats your mainboard type? could be a conflict between it and maybe your hd's... maybe your pulling too much power from your power supply and you dont have enough juice to go around... you add density/complexity, it takes processor !power!. as for your frustration on the pose problem, sounds like you, not poser was at fault. more details would be nice so cooler-heads can determine what happened. we need video card support is what we need... openGL or directX

Yup, I keep a picture of Grace in full admiral's uniform above my computer. Totems aren't logical, but one never knows.... Come to think of it, Admiral Hopper would -certainly- understand fireflies, now wouldn't she?

I have had many Poser files randomly go blooey on me .. in all versions. Poser has a nasty habit of destroying the file you were in when the system destabilized. It's kind of like juggling chainsaws on a tightrope in high winds ..sometimes it works ..sometime you wish you were a rutabaga farmer instead. I feel your pain.

" how is it that poser is at fault here... doesnt look like you were doing anything out of the ordinary." Um, do you USE the program? ^_~

yes i do... it runs like any other app on my computer... better now than before... yes it farts... i guess it just doesnt as much on my computer than yours... for whatever reason... thats too bad. i just want to quell rampant p5 bashing, put a contrustive spin on it... and ease the negativity. 99% of the time something goes wacky for me, it was usually my fault, second to the faults of the program itself. which !are few, if you compare it to the totality of what the program is capable of right now - its suprising it works on as many crappy-ass computers as it does... not to suggest you have a crappy computer, im just saying... yt~;)

I have had exactly the same experience, including the uncontrollable sobbing, with MS Word in its various states of perfection. (Try spending three hours on the first ten pages of a short story, getting up to get a cup of coffee, getting interrupted and dragged into a half-hour conversation, and coming back to discover that the computer went down and Word recently turned off autosave without mentioning it to you.) P5 has some thin ice, and SR3 is going to help. SR4 will be even better. Maybe the magic number is SR5. Meantime, when it is is good, it is very, very good, so I only go back to P4PP when my clunker can't handle the polygon counts.

SAVE EVERY FIVE MINUTES

Yeah but what if you save and the render and your computer crashes and... when you start poser again the saved file just turns up blank...?? That has happened, every thing gone and I saved. But still, if every thing goes well and your work turns out to be great its so worth it :

I don't see that this has to do with P5 much. P5 isn't any less stable on my PC than P4 was. In fact, I think it is more stable quite honestly. I don't animate though. I work in a huge number of different apps from Macromedia, Sonic Foundry, Adobe, Ulead, Microsoft, etc etc. and I always save frequently or have autosave switched on. I might generate 15 versions of a file in a day, and keep them all. But I know how much fun it is when it going blooey. Like when you thought you saved the other figure's pose but you had the wrong figure chosen right then. Regular mistake :o) :] Fish

Um, TCSP, are you sniffing toner or something?

My specs: AMD 2600 Thoroughbred 333FSB, 1.5GB PC3200, Asus A7N8X Deluxe, Temperature under full load=100F Temperature at the time=96F, Yes it is water-cooled, Overclocked 25MHZ.

Now, nothing wrong with the system.

There were 2 figures in the scene, along with 2 normal hairpieces. It was a 100 frame pose, it's best to keep them small. I pressed the little "+" and it farted.

Ok maybe it was my fault, P5 is perfectly glitch-free!
I made the mistake of thinking the "+" was to add my pose to the library, when here it was actually Poser's self-destruct button!

You act as if I'm saying "Poser formatted my harddrive", or "Poser made my CPU catch fire".

Facts are facts, Poser5 is so full of bugs that no system will make it run as advertised.

Don't be such a wiener.

hey ... behave guys. Don't make me turn this thread around! hands on hips Lyrra

Sorry I'll behave.

Actually just Save, Save, Save at any minute intervals won't always help. Need to alternate save locations, or increment the filename, OR keep checking the backup save file after a crash. Poser does actual make a backup copy before a save back to the same filename - can't remember the name of it right now, to protect when it eats it's young during a save. But it'll happily reuse it, so you need to fish it out before reusing Poser again (on the same .pz3).