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Subject: Nifty utility...


Zhann ( ) posted Thu, 08 May 2003 at 7:22 PM · edited Sun, 02 February 2025 at 12:47 PM

Attached Link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/softsoft/wintopo/index.htm

I've been modeling architecture lately and was looking for a way to trace profiles for extrusion instead of tediuosly tracing them in Amapi, when someone in that forum suggested WinTopo, a raster to vector utility with dxf export capabilities, most modeling apps treat the import dxf as polylines...an easier way to go...:) just a thought, Zhann

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BecSchm ( ) posted Thu, 08 May 2003 at 7:52 PM

Thanks Zhann - I think this software will be really interesting to play with.


EricofSD ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 12:47 AM

hmmm, any screen shots? I'm just kinda new to understanding the relationship between vector and 3d. I don't have PSP, which by the demo has a good vector tool. I've got PS 5.5 and 6. and Illustrator something (7). So, while i've exported illustrator vectors into Electric Image Universe just for fun, I do prefer to use the full on nurbs or bezier tools that come with EIU. So am I to assume that this proggy takes a raster (grayscale) image and converts it to vector (something that can be directly imported into EIU and extruded)? Why not just use the gray scale in Bryce terrain editor? or is that too rough on the edges? I'd love to hear more about this.


Zhann ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 1:03 AM

Well, I believe this app is more for eliminating the need to trace a profile for extrusions in 3d modeling progs. I was told, 'Use the freeware program Win-Topo to turn the image or outline into a DXF vector file, which Amapi can handle directly as a polyline. Much more accurate than tracing!' in the Amapi forum, and that's what I'm using it for (architectural copings and bases). I have PSP7 and it handles vectors, but I found no way to export them as dxf files...

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 1:34 AM

Doesn't Adobe Illustrator deal with dxf's?

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Zhann ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 1:48 AM

Don't know, don't have it...anyone know?

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 2:20 AM

This is what Adobe lists; Import and export files in a wide range of popular graphics formats. Work with Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF), EPS, SVG, Photoshop, TIFF, GIF, JPEG, WMF, EMF, SWF, CGM, DXF, DWG, BMP, ASCII, and RTF files. I assume it's the kind of dxf's you're talking about? I don't know myself. AS

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Zhann ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 3:01 AM

oky doky...:)

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 4:06 AM

I looked around for an import/export filter for Photoshop, for dxf's, nothing as of yet.

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Baument ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 5:15 AM

Attached Link: Baument.com

As an aside...... Photoshop will export Illustrator splines directly (these are vectorized by Max on import). Don't know if any other programs can use them or not. I did a tut some time ago on using them in Max. It's on our tutorial page under the title AI Paths to Max at www.baument.com


clay ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 5:31 AM

Maya, Lw etc will use ai (Illustrator) files as curves "paths" "splines" etc.. most vector apps. And Photoshop will export a DXF file, you have to have the plugin, grr can't remember where it is oright now.

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 6:32 AM

Cool. Don't worry, it will be found! Thanks, Clay for the verify. AS

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TMGraphics ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 6:05 PM

Sounds nifty...


Zhann ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 7:30 PM

Ditto!

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Zhann ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2003 at 7:32 PM

Ooops, meant to ask does anyone know if PaintShopPro has the same capability, I couldn't find anything, and will the PS plugin work with it?

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bikermouse ( ) posted Sat, 10 May 2003 at 5:02 AM

Thanks Zhann. I'll check it out. PSP? dunno probably. I'm hoping the plug in Clay refers to works with corel photo paint myself.


pakled ( ) posted Sat, 10 May 2003 at 8:51 AM

dxf is pretty common. I know Wings 3d can handle it, I think Anim8tor, Bryce for sure, and possibly Poser. The files tend to be a bit larger than .3ds, but there's conversion programs that can handle that as well. I got the program, but I understand about 1 word in 3, so it'll be slow going for awhile.

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jelisa ( ) posted Sun, 11 May 2003 at 1:37 AM

Paint Shop Pro can import dxf, but not export it.


Zhann ( ) posted Sun, 11 May 2003 at 3:51 AM

Bummer..:( Guess WinTopo for me....

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jelisa ( ) posted Sun, 11 May 2003 at 10:47 AM

I had found WinTopo not more than an hour before I read about it here. It does work, however, I could not get the resulting dxf into Bryce. I was able to import it into trueSpace, select the face and extrude, then export as dxf and import into Bryce.


bikermouse ( ) posted Sun, 11 May 2003 at 11:32 AM

Corel PhotoPaint will export .ai. I think dxf as well. I sometimes use an old version of HijakPro(IMSI) for converting to and from 2d .dxf as well as converting screenshots to jpg, but I really need to update it.


bikermouse ( ) posted Sun, 11 May 2003 at 11:39 AM

OOpS! forgot to mention there is 2d dxf and 3d dxf - jelisa noted that a 2d dxf needs to be converted to a 3d format to import into Bryce as an object.


Zhann ( ) posted Sun, 11 May 2003 at 4:06 PM

Yup, that's why I wanted it, to bring in a polyline profile to extrude in Amapi...

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bikermouse ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2003 at 2:59 AM

Zhann, gotta love you ... you grok extrusion!


Zhann ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2003 at 3:53 AM

Why, thank you bikermouse, I grok you too, in a good way of course...8)

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