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Has anyone had a chance to use the new versions yet? It looks like the price is great, especially for the upgrade (seems there's no additional discount for Platinum Club members, though :( ), but as I'm on borrowed PCs with very limited Internet access for the summer, I can't start playing with it on my Mac yet. Unless I were to have it burned to a CD and shipped....

That little blurb is on all DOC items. AFAIK, it just means that you can't use the vouchers in conjunction with the PC discount.

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I get a lovely little DNS Error trying to get to daz. grrrrr of all the luck. update update update. haha. open open open. sigh least it's not going to go out of stock, I'll have to check later. thanks for the heads up though.

Steve, If you already have Mimic and want Mimic 2 Pro do you have to buy the upgrade to Mimic 2 AND Mimic 2 Pro? The Mimic 2 Pro page indicates that Mimic 2 is required. Just wondered if it should say that Mimic 1 or 2 is required. Thanks, Phillip

For some reason I get an error as well trying to get to the daz3d.com addy but if I follow the link in the first post here I can get in to the store.. strange..

I think they will love it Steve. You guys and gals at DAZ have turned a little pseudo-plugin (that worked ok) into a full blown rippin application. It's really good. Joe www.3-AXIS.com

Okay I'm seriously confused by the new site. I'm a PClub member. If I buy Mimic 2, and the Mimic Pro upgrade it's $111, much cheaper than JUST buying mimic pro. but when I login and add to my shopping cart I don't see any discounts applying. I can't see PCLUB discounts applying anywhere anymore on other items also. I'm not ready to buy, just trying to figure out money to set as side. this used to be so much easyer in the old version of the site. anybody have a clue?

MachineClaw, our current checkout process doesn't display any discounts until the final checkout screen (right after you enter payment information, right before your card is charged). So, you won't see the discounts until you are just about to charge your card. As for the site, we were having problems with our dns for some reason, but I'm told it has been fixed now. Phillip, as for the upgrade, you can upgrade straight from Mimic 1 to Mimic 2 Pro. But, yes, that should be more explicit on the product page, I'll have that fixed now, thanks. Hope you all enjoy it! Steve

Oh, cool. They even added the timeline editor and hardware-accelerated 3D preview window I wanted.

Victoria 1 Reduced Resolution included

Interesting. I think I'll wait until tomorrow to buy mine.

Steve, thanks. Not diggin the new site procedures, but I guess I'll get used to it. thanks for the info.

Looks nice, but how about some idea about system requirements? Is the Mac version 9.x compatable, or is it OSX?

I don't want to be the stick in the mud, but is there any particular reason why the total plus discount can't be shown before checkout. It was rather convenient to know what the total was without a calculator (or entering my credit card info for that matter). I don't suppose there's any plans to put some form of total cost with discounts back onto the shopping cart, is there? ~DM

OK I admit it I'm a Daz junky. I'll be buying the Pro upgrade of Mimic later today. I'm a little surprised that since its purpose is to make making animations easier that I can't find any example animations showing what it can do to demonstrate just how good it is. Cheers Mark

Well, I gotta tell ya, I did a quick little test run on it as soon as I got it installed (I bought my copy of Mimic 1.0 from lipsync way back when) and I'm much happier with the new version. Can't wait until I have a bit more time to play with it fully. Kate

As for Pricing and discounts, I was able to purchase my copy of the Mimic 2 Pro version for less than 79 dollars. Discount 1 was the introductory price. Discount 2 was my ownership of Mimic 1. Discount 3 (Platinum Club) was tagged just before the download function. What a hoot! I paid twice this amount for the original edition when Curious Labs could sell it. I'll let you know my feelings when I install and try it this weekend. Take care! Sincerely, Bill

I was one of the beta testers for Mimic 2. It is sooooo faaarrrr advanced from Mimic 1, you won't even recognize it as the same program. Of the two progs, I would definitely get Pro - you won't believe the feature set! -scara

Great news :) Does this mean that DAZ|Studio beta is near ? If memory serves, Mimic 2.0 and DAZ|Studio beta release were side by side on DAZ|Studio release timetable, but I just checked and there is no such connection anymore... Jon

I was thinking the same thing. Alas, more recently I read that Mimic would be released in May (which it did) and the core render engine for DAZ Studio would appear sometime in mid summer. That gives us a potentially two month wait still ahead. But that's okay. I'd rather have a more stable program even if it means waiting a little longer. Just remember, gang, this will be a public "beta." That means someone WILL find bugs. The good part is that we will NOT be PAYING for the privilage to test it. It should be an interesting summer! Sincerely, Bill

I've got to figure a way to get more cash. I want Mimic 2 Pro in the worst way. And I'm hoping Mike 3 will be out sometime this summer too. Anyone want to buy a slightly used domestic partner? OK, maybe more than slightly, but he's got lots of miles left on him... Steve, any estimate on Mike 3?

This is a great product! It is so far advanced from version 1 this should carry a version number of 4! I just wish you would have waited to sell it. I am so far behind in my other projects that having this to play with won't help ;)

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Jim, did you try selling him on eBay? :)

Darn you Daz! You are gonna get me divorced!

BTW when they say define Phenomes and emotions, does that mean that it can merely edit existing morphs or add new ones. So for instance if I wanna add more phenomes to vicky 2 since I don't have V3 yet etc... Does that make sense? Probably not. Hehe wish this had come out last christmas during the customer appreciation sale. :D

Jim, "slightly used domestic partner" hmm... how are you at repairing and maintaining computers? Can you cook? :speculating grin: Carolly

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Berserga if you can make the morph on your figure you can add it to Mimic 2 pro. there are a specific number of phonemes you can't change that, but you can change the morphs associated with them and for any other facial morphs you can use Expressions and Gestures

Carolly, I can repair and maintain PC's great! Program them too. No Macs though... I'm a really good cook too (or so I've been told). Anything from Down home southern to some fairly exotic stuff. My favorite though is game hens stuffed with wild rice, apples, walnuts, and raisens with a honey mustard and rosmary glaze. I sever them with fresh steamed green beans tossed with lemon juice, summer savory, and a little olive oil. Dessert is Triple Chocholate Cake with homemade rasberry filling. Steve, thanks for the info on Mike 3! I can hardly wait!

wdupre: Nice tutorials. These will be a huge help to many people out there. Awsome! Joe www.3-AXIS.com

pdxjims, But do you know what and where a laundry hamper is, and can you load a dishwasher? >^_~

Loking good, MIMIC 2 Pro downloaded and installed AOK. Initial tests sugegst that DAZ's "minimum spec" (E.G. Pentium 700MHz) might be a touch optimistic - but as I'll be using a Pentium 4 2.4GHz except when I'm away I'm not THAT bothered . Quick note - in the Windows startup menu (Start...Program Files...DAZ Programs...Mimic 2) you might have to edit the "Mimic HTML Help" link - when I installed it put "Mimic 2" in the shortcut twice, so couldn't find the help file. cut one of these out and it works great. Cheers, Cliff "No more darned CD required" Bowman

Serious question: Is Mimic any use to non animators?

MomCat, I guess in the strictest sense, no, it wouldn't, not if you only do still shots. But if you want to create a quick kiosk type greeting for a web site, then its use of WAV files to create the animated facial poses is a blessing. But this tools is geared towards animators. Sincerely, Bill

Not sure...
I have CD's Mimic, bought at lipsinc.com (many months ago... Before Daz3d realease it), and I would like to know if I will buy the upgrade 'Mimic 2 Pro (Upgrade from version 1 or 2) Code: ps_ap043' will it work with my CD (I mean with the version I currently have)?
Thanks in advance for the help.

yes it does - I bought from Lipsync and the MIMIC PRo upgrade installed very easily (bar the installer quirk mentioned above, which is a minor glitch).

Phoul; Unless I am badly mistaken, what DAZ did was purchase Mimic, and then make it available. I don't =think= there was any additional work done to it... Okay. The version of Lipsinc I purchased from DAZ is version 1.0 and still has the lipsinc logo. In any event, Mimic 2.0 installs into a seperate folder altogether; it only looks to see if you have a valid copy of Mimic 1. So it should 'upgrade' just fine. And you -do- want this program. Just the options to add and adjust the facial morph behavior is priceless. And you will still have Mimic 1 if you ever need it (visions of cutting the laughter out of Carlin's 'Incomplete list of Dirty Words monologue on the In Campus tape have just gotten much stonger).

Thanks friends for the infos. Let's go to the shop now :-)

So, if I have the original Mimic 1.0, will I still have to use the old Mimic CD to run Mimic2Pro? Can I uninstall Mimic 1.0 after 2 is installed?

You don't need the CD, but I haven't been using it long enough to try uninstalling MIMIC1 yet (SHOULD be just fine - DAZ installers only check for old versions of stuff on installing, not every time the program is used). Hmmm... I note that it's not quite as good as Poser at finding textures... looks like I might have to correct some references (and the MilDragon doesn't work quite as well with MimiC 2 as I'd have liked - but such is life).

The V3 promo picture has a wonderful looking smile. What morph packs/dial settings were used? I've fiddled around at times to try for decent smiles, and I haven't come up with anything that nice. Thanks!

Does Mimic work with other languages than English?

Getting a Dragon to talk to ya is hard, usually they just want to eat you or fry you on the spot. sorry, couldn't resist :P

to MarianneR, i think so. If you read DAZ's intro to mimic 2, it will say "regardless of language" or something like that. by the way, i'm getting mimic, and i'm glad the lady at daz told me the system requirements were MAC os X, now i have to backup and reinstall jaguar.

to tebop: Thank you! Now I found it.

To MachineClaw: First thing I ever did with the MilDragon IIRC is record my voice saying "Hello James", rendering up in Poser and playing it to my young son - who was transfixed at this "ROOOOAAAAR" (what he calls monsters and carnivorous animals) speaking with Daddy's voice. Sigh - he'll be 2 years old in a couple of months (James, not the Mil Dragon). So yeah - it's important for Dragons to be able to do more than Bar-B-Q the neighbors

I'm with you there who3d! My and son and two daughters love to here the "scary animals" (or heck, ANY of the animals or characters) talk in one of Daddy's many voices. That is just about my favorite use of Poser ... entertaining the kids! Downloading Mimic 2 Pro Now ... MUST ... MAINTAIN ... COMPOSURE. HELLLP! ;) -Tim

All I have to say is ... WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay, maybe a little more than wow: These folks weren't kidding when they said it is quite impressive. Amazing really ... a completely new program, feature rich, fast, and very accurate right "out of the box"! NICE WORK DAZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just tried a little singing ... which is notoriously hard for a lipsync program, and it was near flawless. Always can use tweaking, but pretty good. If you're an animator or just like making things talk (for your kids, spouse, yourself, whatever) you MUST get this program. The real-time preview is WONDERFUL. I'm going to try the side-by-side video next ... can't wait! Thanks Daz! -Tim

I'm really impressed too. Pro version makes it very easy to change expressions. Makes you wonder what surprises Daz Studio will have. Great work Daz! Tim

For those that have looked yet, here's the system req Windows 98, 2000, ME or XP Or Macintosh OS X + Most current version o Microsoft Media Player (Windows) Most current version of Quicktime (Mac) DAZ|Studio 1.0 or Curious Labs Poser v3 or above (Optional) 700MHz Pentium class or compatible <-- which class Mac does this translate to? G3?, G4? and what speed? 128MB System RAM (256MB recommended) 24-bit color display 1024x 768 resolution 25MB free hard disk space Sound card, speakers and microphone Video card supporting Open GL