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Subject: File too big to open suggestions??


veleria ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 9:57 AM · edited Fri, 07 February 2025 at 9:18 PM

I'm sure yall are gonna get sick of my questions lol, My husband made a great scene last night and it ended up being 52 mb in size. Poser froze up while trying to render it so we restarted the comp and turned off everything that we could and tried to open the file and it freezes everytime. Is there anything I could do to the resources or memory so that it will open up and we can render it? I use poser 5, windows me. My computer has 191 mb ram and only 7.59 gig hard drive so its not a great computer. I hope someone can help me with this please. Vel


sabretalon ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 10:12 AM

How much spare hard disk space?


genny ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 10:16 AM

I am no computer wiz.......but I think you probably need more ram. (: Is it possible for you to add more? It is relatively cheap now, so if your computer will allow it, I would give that a try . Genny


veleria ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 10:56 AM

1.75 gigs right now. Unfortunatly upgrading my computer will have to wait due to financial crap..lol Vel


Simderella ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 10:58 AM

I would say lack of RAM, poser 5 already eats a around 25% - 30% and a big render probably won't work, or invaribly crash. Also might be worth checking to see what u have checked in the p5 render window, unclick anything u can do without like maybe raytracing, or smoothing polygons.. etc Its well worth picking up some more RAM, not only will ur system thank you. lol... but u'll find poser a lot more enjoyable and less frustrating! Good Luck

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ockham ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 11:15 AM

You may be able to split the scene. If there are some parts that always stay well in the background (not "downstage" with the figures) separate those parts into a PZ3 and render. Then use that image as the background for the figures, or put it on a square behind the figures.

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genny ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 12:09 PM

Veleria, will your computer allow you to "upgrade" or add a new "memory" card? I have one that has been sitting in my desk drawer for over 6 months, (as far as I know it is still good) and the specs are: 168 gold pin, 3.3 volts,PC-133 (133 MHZ) single wide,SDRAM. I know that all sounds pretty crazy, It does to me anyways (:, but if your computer can or will accept this.......IM me, and I will send it to you for free. God knows, I am a crazy women, and if my computer is not working with the programs I want to use..........I will find a way to make them work, or I go buy another computer! LOL! My latest computer will not accept this card, and the other one that I have is maxed out on memory, sooooooo.......I really don't need or want this card for anything. Check the specs on yours and let me know. (: I have been there, hon,........and I don't know if I am really helping you, or "creating" a monster! You do know, that Poser, is really addictive? (: Genny


veleria ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 12:35 PM

ok my computer has 533 megahertz or however you spell it. only thing I have ever upgraded was the ram and we might try to get some more this weekend. As far as putting his file into different parts, i cant get it to load onto poser just to look at it or change it so i dont know how i could do that. I dont know my specs on this comp so i have no clue if it would work. I got it right after windows me came out. I can already see before this is over with i will need more disc space as i cant stop downloading stuff for poser lol. Start surfing free stuff and before i know it, my desktop is one big zip file! lol. I might try slowing my hardware acceleration down to the last notch and see if that lets me load it. Thank you for all the replies, I am so lost with this program lol Vel


genny ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 1:21 PM

You need to find the specs of your computer...just go to the web site of the computer maker...........you Should be able to get them there. (: If you have Upgraded the ram before, then you should already know what the specs are? Genny


sabretalon ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 5:13 PM

Try increasing your virtual memory, look in the Win ME help files for how to. It may be just enough to help you open the file, I would not attempt to render it if it did open. How long ago did you buy the RAM, I would assume you just bought off the shelf stuff cheapest going? Are you sure the newer RAM is working OK?


geoegress ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 5:34 PM

ram is good but don't understimate how much virtual memory you use- you really really need a bigger HD.


Luthoricas ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 5:51 PM

More ram or a bigger hard drive means $$. If you want to save money, ockham's idea is your best bet. Or, If you have a graphics program like PhotoPaint or PhotoShop, you could try this... Load the pz3 and then try to figure out what parts could be split up into separate renders. (Watch especially for where shadows cross each other here). Then delete say, half the foreground objects and save the pz3 -- with a different name (!) Don't delete any lights or change anything else. Then reload the original pz3, delete the other half of the foreground objects and save with yet another name. Again, don't delete any lights or change anything else. Then load and render the two pz3's separately. Next, in your graphics program, load both resulting images. Split one in half and paste that half into its position in the other image. Combine the two and save. Just an idea...


lordbyron ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 8:04 PM

veleria, Here's an idea similar to asp1vip's. Maybe it'll work. (1) DL a copy of Morphmanager (in the freestuff section I think.) (2) Make a backup (or 2) of your PZ3 file. (3) Load the PZ3 file into Morphmanager and delete a few of figures/props. (4) Repeat the above process on a second PZ3 file with different figures/morphs. (5) Render the smaller individual PZ3 files. (6) Use an image manipulation prog. such as Photoshop or PSP to composite the various renders into a single picture. This may work, I hope b/c the PZ3 files can be saved, I hope, onto disks which will free your HD space. I hope this helps. --lb


geoegress ( ) posted Thu, 19 June 2003 at 8:48 PM

ohh- just remembered- save all (everything) into the figures or props libary as one item ( the + sign) then start as a new window click the check mark to bring it back in I think I heard that it make the entire scene and contents size smaller but you can't pose just render


sabretalon ( ) posted Fri, 20 June 2003 at 2:56 AM

Some of you are still suggesting that they load the PZ3. As pointed out, they can not open the file to be able to downsize. Looking at the messages, you will also notice that they have limited experience of Poser and therefore it would also meen that they have limited experience of related products or add ons and maybe even editing PZ3 files. I think that they may get a little frustrated by having to download the add ons to open a file they had previously been working on. When they open the file they can then start to do some of the suggestions by splitting into smaller chunks. If I remember correctly, increasing the virtual memory will only really help when rendering! I can't remember but does Win ME have things like animated menus etc..? If so switch them off, close all non essential resources and then try opening the file. When/if the file opens don't render but try the suggestions above to split the file into smaller manageable chunks.


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