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Subject: Nice to see the art of trolling isn't dead


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dalelaroy ( ) posted Thu, 26 June 2003 at 12:09 PM

Not all art challenges moral values, and there are those who might find some nudity tasteful, while others is offensive. I for one do not care for shemales and often post negative comments about these images when they show up at my favorite sites. Of course, in these cases they are done by artists that I have praised and/or constructively critisized in the past. Dale LaRoy Splitstone


Neo10 ( ) posted Thu, 26 June 2003 at 9:55 PM

shemale? Ricci is no shemale lol she is a female.


dalelaroy ( ) posted Thu, 26 June 2003 at 11:42 PM

I think the nude body pretty much established that ;-) OTOH, I am certain that somebody could do the conversion, and they wouldn't even need to be a plastic surgeon. Dale LaRoy Splitstone Interesting aside. I work with a man who is bisexual with a preference for men, and he finds shemales offensive too. But there do seem to be a lot of fans of shemales out there. Personal tastes I guess.


Neo10 ( ) posted Thu, 26 June 2003 at 11:49 PM

I'm a bit confused here. not sure why the subject of shemales even get into this thread? It was about a commenter who thaught ricci looked 11


dalelaroy ( ) posted Fri, 27 June 2003 at 12:10 AM

Just pointing out that a person does not have to be a prude to be offended. It is all a matter of perspective. A person who is fine with adult nudity might be very sensitive about prepubescent nudity to the point where they see it where it doesn't really exist. I did not see the original message, but I can understand where it might have been coming from, especially having known some people that were sexually abused as children. I can be a very intense issue for some. Dale LaRoy Splitstone BTW, love the license plate, and Ricci would look Native American to me even without the hair style. Nice work.


lmckenzie ( ) posted Fri, 27 June 2003 at 5:32 PM

So, your aversion to the transgendered would then falls into the category of emotional rather than moral criticism. That is to say, they just creep you out, Quite understandable. I don't quite understand though, why you would continue posting negative comments on something that you would find objectionable, no matter how well done - other than trying to get people to stop doing shemale art. Just pass it by. I get creeped out by some of the items euphemistically called "variety meats" at the grocer. I just look away and continue on the the steaks and chops. Apologies to PETA. Yes, I know that those too are the byproduct of senseless animal murder but I can't help myself.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


dalelaroy ( ) posted Fri, 27 June 2003 at 6:08 PM

Well, one of my favorite artists is the late great Eric Stanton. I like Blunder Broad, and purchased all the episodes of the series. Unfortunately, some of these episodes were only 8 to ten pages long, with over 20 pages of Prinkazons in the same book. OK, the Prinkazons originated in an episode of Blunder Broad, so in a way this made sense. But, this didn't stop me from sending him letters of disapproval, nor does it stop me from criticizing those keeping Blundie alive when they start to post what I consider an excessive number of Blundie illustrations featuring the Prinkazons. Dale LaRoy Splitstone


elektra ( ) posted Fri, 27 June 2003 at 6:21 PM

I've found in a few instances that I may admire a piece of art from what I call a "technical" perspective, IE: the colors are good, the lighting is well done, camera angles are working for the piece and the people are well done, but not care for the actual content. My best example is music. There are performers who's music or style I don't care for, but I can acknowledge that they are talented musicians/singers. If I see a piece of art that is technially good, but I don't care for the content, I usually refrain from comment because I can offer nothing constructive. OTOH, when I see something that has content I like, but feel that maybe better lighting would help it or a change of color or body angle would help, I'll chime in. I also try to point out that it's my opinion/perspective, which usually means, take it for what it's worth. For the most part, I try to only comment on the pieces that I like because of the fact that I'm not a great artist and still learning a lot about the programs and art itself. I really don't feel I have the right to criticize. IMHO, the person who's post was removed was offering nothing useful and it was appropriate to remove it. It implied something that wasn't there and it was totally uncalled for.


lmckenzie ( ) posted Fri, 27 June 2003 at 6:40 PM

Blundie? Pinkazons? I need to get out more or lock the doors and shudder in horror. I guess I'll know 'em if I see 'em.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


dalelaroy ( ) posted Fri, 27 June 2003 at 7:34 PM

I suppose you have not heard of Bondage Fairies either. Excellent artwork, but only the first series was very good, in the opinion of my friends an I. In the New Bondage Fairies the series strayed primarily into beastiality (actually sex with insects and small rodents), and became offensive. Once again, personal preference I suppose. Dale LaRoy Splitstone


lmckenzie ( ) posted Sat, 28 June 2003 at 1:23 AM

"Bondage Fairies" - dude, I'm there - oops, I mean how disgusting. 30 minutes later: OK, thanks to the wonders of Google, I hipped myself to the scene. Blunder Broad - helluva built on that broad, though I don't know why DC didn't sue him blind for the Wonder Woman rip. The Pinkazons - oh mommy, make it go away. But as I said, if ya don't like the meat..., very appropriate in this case. The bondage Faries - Very cute, though I wouldn't pay to see them. Of course, I didn't see any hamster humping which is probably in the "Bondage Faries Extreme," now sold out. I'm surprised that no one has Poserized them.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


dalelaroy ( ) posted Sat, 28 June 2003 at 2:55 AM

Ironic that you should state it that way, since Eric lost his sight shortly before his death. BTW, DC should not have prevailed in such a suit, since parody is a protected form of free speech. BTW, Wonder Woman was originally more or less a bondage comic, with the hook being that she would lose her powers when bound by the hand of man, and Spiderman was created by the man who taught Eric Stanton bondage art. I wonder if this had any influence on Spiderman's equipment (webshooters)? I would love to do Poser models not only for the Bondage Fairies, but Blunder Broad and friends. One story line that I have considered is Blunder Broad being shrunk and encountering the Bondage Fairies. The problem with doing comics using Poser is capturing that comic look. So far, I have only seen the right combination of textures and rendering in Simderella's gallery. I hope she will share her secrets with the Poser comics community. Dale LaRoy Splitstone


lmckenzie ( ) posted Sat, 28 June 2003 at 6:31 PM

"Blunder Broad being shrunk and encountering the Bondage Fairies." Sounds like fun. I hope you pursue that idea. Quite a few people have lamented the lack of a toon cel shader in Poser. I've seen some fair workarounds. Do a search here for cartoon and you might find something. I know the eyes are a problem using Poser's cartoon render mode. Someone had some special eyes for that purpose - probably still in freestuff. I really didn't recognize WW's charm until Lynda Carter brought her bouncing to life. I think the Fantastic Four was about the end of my comic period - just before the X-Men, Spiderman etc. Just as well, I don't particularly go for the modern trend of exploring the character's psychic angst and dark foreboding inner turmoil - just get to the Clobberin' Time :-)

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


dalelaroy ( ) posted Sat, 28 June 2003 at 7:29 PM

Blunder Broad was in fact inspired by the Lynda Carter Wonder Woman, not the comic. Eric has charged Mike Frankovich, who coincidentally was at one time a producer on the Wonder Woman television series, and married Lynda Carter's stunt double, with keeping Blunder Broad alive. The terms of distributing Blunder Broad related materials is that they be distributed noncommercially only, so if I were to do Blunder Broad and friends as Poser models and present them to the community myself, they would have to be distributed free, and any renderings using them would also have to be for strictly non-commercial purposes. It is possible to arrange with Eric's family to take a project commercial, and I would hope to be able to simply turn over the Poser models to the Stantons, with them in turn selling them with the same licensing terms as DAZ. This would enable purchasers of the models, myself included, to produce their own commercial Blunder Broad art. The next target would be to attempt to work out the same deal with the copyright holder of the Bondage Fairies. Perhaps the Stantons could launch a DAZ/Renderosity style operation for the distrubution of adult comic models and tools, such as textures hopefully supplied by Simderella. Who knows, if this business model is successful perhaps one day we will be able to by models licensed by Antarctic Press, Crusade, DC, or even Disney, for the production of fan fiction or possibly commercial works. Dale LaRoy Splitstone


lmckenzie ( ) posted Sat, 28 June 2003 at 9:04 PM

Wicked. I've seen plastic/resin figures of some of various characters that look quite nice, though rather pricey. Of course, Animotions has a plethora of comic Poser characters, though nothing anime-ish that I recall. I think Warrior Nun is as close as they come to a Blunder Broad alternative type character. AT any rate, thanks for the info. You obviously know your stuff. Of course now to maintain complete artistic integrity (or something) you'll have to do the Pinkazons as well. Talk about suffering for your art!

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


dalelaroy ( ) posted Sat, 28 June 2003 at 9:34 PM

Well, there is no one Prinkazon that occurs as a recuring character, so I will leave it up to the fans of Prinkazons to morph Blundie and friends into their favorite Prinkazons. I will have to check out Animotions, if they really have a Poser version of Warrior Nun I am definitely interested, better yet would be models of Gina, Brittany, and Brianna from Gold Digger. Dale LaRoy Splitstone


lmckenzie ( ) posted Sat, 28 June 2003 at 11:51 PM

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They have a lot of DC and Marvel characters as well as some original and Independent ones. Arela is in the Independent section. Don't know about the others.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


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