Oh well you can just change the material color for that :o) Rena will be texturing those anyway i was thinking more of accesories....Steve

Is that a new hat prop? Does not have the bowl-on-the-head look of the others I've tried. You're right though, she still looks pretty "clean-cut".

Boots. Definately Boots. Maybe a Tanktop or short sleeve shirt with a dark camo pattern? A couple of facial rings, like an eyebrow and lip ring? Finger Rings, or even better, brass knuckles. Right now she looks about as menacing as a Gap Sales Clerk. Love the hat though! excellent shaping!

Its the Poser4 hat LOL.......Steve

she could almost pass as Terri, the Croc Hunter's wife

I agree with boots. Additionally i propose a tatoo on her upper arm. wolfdd

Take a look at Sporty Spice of the Spice Girls... needs ring through lip or whatever... an navel ring. Traveler has at Morph World. Can you give her a gold tooth or two :) Something in the eyes to too soft, wouls anti-worry help? I don't know. Very nice clothes... maybe a goth texture would help (HappyLand). Show us the update. She'll be real tough if you give her scarification designs intead of tatoo. Pump up her bicepts. Dial in the "F" phenome. Are thier possable combat boots anywhere? When I lived in new york the really butch girls wore butt pluggs on strings around thier necks. On a more serious note, I have a strange suspiscion she might look tougher with the head scaled up barely perceptibly.

I think I've discovered I'm not very street savvy at all LOL....I think we'll call her a trendy mum if I can't get her to look mean LOL..Steve

Well, she does still kinda have a "Soccer Mom" look. Oh yeah, gotta turn the cap backwards. (P4?- sheesh!) And it would be great if someone would take Zorbak/Her's excellent CombatBoots in FS and make them poseable. OT - (with apologies to Steve) btw - Zorbak only posted stuff in here for about 3 weeks over a year ago but his works are still in the Most Wanted list. I see tht he still passes through here and I'd love to see some more of his work. Anders, if you see this, please let us know what you've been working on. I've never been able to get past the first page of his website but I have problems with both JAVA and Flash so that could be the problem. Might one of you guys try it and see if he's been posting any stuff there? Her's Site

Well, I'm sort of like you Steve--probably not very street savvy-LOL, but for one thing, I think the sneaks have to go--at least in this version. Probably boots or some other cool shoe.

Hmmm.... (looking at the female students here at work), well she'll need some hoop earrings, nose ring, mutliple eyebrow rings, armband (or armband tattoo), navel ring, chain belt, spiked collar, 6-inch spiked high-heel boots, pale skin w/ darker make-up (Happyland plum texture), and yes the cap needs to go on backwards. just a suggestion

Hi Folks! Steve, take a look at the Fly Girl image in the Gallery section of my web site > www.drzik.com < Hope it gives you some more ideas. Peter (Dr Zik)

Steve- jeans should be a LOT tighter!

Well, considering how many bad neighborhoods I've lived in, here's a few suggetions: 1) A texture can make a BIG difference here. Most "bad street girls" do NOT wear clothes that look brand-new. Try putting a little (not a lot) of wear and tear into the clothes. 2) If you're going to use tennis shoes, try something that looks branded (like Nike or Adidas or Converse). Also, low-tops are more common than tennis shoes in the 'hood. ;) 3) A jacket. Even in hot weather, it's common to see bad gals wearing jackets or windbreakers with sport team emblems, shoe sompany emblems, etc. These things will really help bring out that "in the 'hood" look. :) mr_sanity P.S.: I disagree with Jim Burton, if anything, the jeans should be MORE BAGGY. All the better to hide stuff in, if you get what I mean...