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I was told that sometimes Vue4 images come out fuzzy. I do covers, and I'm a newbie with Vue4. I was hoping someone could explain why some images are fuzzy, and some are not (at the same settings). I hate to spend days on an image, then find out I can't use it. Vue seems to be a great program, the samples I've seen look fantastic. I did find a great website for tutorials for beginners like me, so I thought I'd share it, it is proably too basic for most of you though. If anyone can help I'd appreicate it.

Hi Phil, thanks for the link, it's my page. Everybody knows it, I think:-). I don't understand what you mean when you say "I was told that sometimes Vue4 images come out fuzzy". Who told you and what does it mean? Does it mean that in your opinion the render is not "clean" anough? Or something different? Please explain better, this makes it easier to help you for this specific problem. :-)Guitta

Hello Phil , I confirm everybody knows the links ;=) There are other links for tutorials (among other things) in the backroom at the top of this page ;=) Yves

Yep, just as confused here Phil I'm afraid :) I dont know what you mean at all by fuzzy. I have never had this happen to me. Maybe post a picture, so we can see what you mean? Kutter

I searched here before I posted. I think MightyJoe gave the following answer; Ya turn the rendering quality up. Try Ultra or user and if your using Volumetric skies then turn the quality of the fog up lots you can go past the three there by just typing in new numbers. I've done +6 and even +8. If you using bmp images for textures make sure there set to bycubic in the over sampling part and make sure your not exceeding the texture sizes, like don't expect to cover something big with a tiny little bmp texture. DELETE JPG textures there useless ! People over compress them then there almost a total waste of time. The boxes of the jpg compression system will show up. It don't work that way. Vue will not draw a better texture you must have it big enough to start with or if it's seamless make sure you set it to tile. To cut down on the rendering time Group and then group some more. Repeat after me " Grouping is my friend !" This program can blow any program away in rendering quality just don't be in a hurry. It's got total control on the rendering quality setting and that may be good or bad cause people don't know how to set up all the options. If in dought use Ultra. The fog setting will make the biggest difference if your using Volumetric skies. Try little tiny test renders till you get the effect you want. Like put the main scene view on it's own screen then select render area around the trouble spots in the scene and render them out with differnt settings till you get the effect you want. Then render the whole works the size you want. but I don't understand. :OP

I'm lost, can anyone transulate for me?

gebe-you have a great site, your "dummy" tutorials are a life saver for me. Thank you.

You'r lost? I think you managed to lose everyone else as well. The manul may be your best bet I would think. Start on page 98. Good luck. shoop

Sorry rds I apoligize. I did read the manual, and I tried searching this forum before asking anything, I didn't want to bother anybody. bit map texturess are no good?, JPEG textures no good?, some of the other stuff is over my head. In any case, sorry everyone. I'll try elsewhere. Thank you everyone, (especialty gebe), for you help to newbies.

It's that we can't teach you in a paragraph or two. These are all nice people - and we need to see it to help you. You have to practice and get comfortable with all the nuances (lighting - aside from the atmosphere- has many ways of changing the look of everything) it's not as easy as it looks. You have to play. Even if you're a natural talent, you still need to learn the tools. You have a lot of information - some of it is questionable. Things can get mixed up real easy. Ask 1 question at a time - you'll get the right answer. Post a small pic here, so we can help.

I'msorry I could not come back earlier. I had 39 C (102.2F) in my office yesterday and my computer slowed down, it was boiling. Will be the same today. I need to shut it down to cool it.

You're very welcome Philywebrider and we will try to answer all your questions.
I don't know MightyJoe (MightyPete maybe??) And I don't understand the description either. If it is MightyPete, he is very good in Vue and computer techniques and can answer lots of questions, but his slang text is for me, as a non native English speaker, completely confusing too.

So if you wanted to speak about "unclean" renders, you need to select RENDER OPTIONS from the menue PICTURE. Then select USER SETTINGS and click, under ANTIALIASING the EDIT button. There you can put all the sliders to its maximum before you render your image.

This reder will give the best result. Not fuzzy, not grainy.
Now, if you use bitmaps as textures in your image, they should be atleast the same resolution as the size of your final image.

Fog and haze gives some kind of fuzziness if you like it, but you also can turn off FOG and HAZE in the Atmosphere editor. Click F4 to open it. But you must know that Fog and Haze completely tourned off will darken especially volumetric atmospheres.

When he sais don't be hurry, tis means that you should be aware of a long, very long render time if your image contains water, reflective material or more then one light.

I think the answer you got from rds was not meaned as you understoud it. He just did not understand your request either.

Now, I'm not sure I have answered your question. That's why, if you could post a small render to show us we can see and help you much better. Everybody here is helpfull, so feel free to ask.

:-)Guitta

The render quality of my Vue v4.12 reflects what I see in Vue d'Esprit galleries. But still, I do agree that there is something missing in final renders. I'm a heavy Photoshop user and I alway open my renders in this program to add a slight (0.3 pixels) high pass sharpening and a very slight curves adjustment. I can't say that there isn't anything fuzzy or whatever really wrong with the renders, but for some reason they always need these two slight adjustments in Photoshop. I never have this problem with Cinema 4D, so I assume that it's really Vue d'Esprit related. I do think that one needs to be more trained in professional image corrections to really notice the difference.

Ah?

What's with the 'ah?'?? Why not a reply that I can do something with Gebe? ;-)

I said "ah?" because I don't have Photoshop and never did such things in a paint program. I just show my Vue images as they comes out directly from Vue. Just wondering:-)

Hi gebe Many thanks for your fantastic help. I'll work with what you gave me so far, it is much appreicated. I guess I confused people again. I wasn't mad I was/am sincerely sorry I wasn't clear enough with my questions. It is tough when you don't know enough to format your questions. my "going elsewhere", was me trying to find another place to find information because I hadn't expressed myself as clearly as I should have. I'm not mad, just frustrated with myself. I do want to thank everyone.

You are very welcome Phil. Don't hesitate to ask any question. If we need more information, we just will "ask back":-) Guitta