Probably a bonehead question, but is there a way to convert Bryce .odp objects to a format that can be imported into Poser? .3ds or .obj would be ideal, if it can be done. I realize I'm probably hoping against hope on this one...

Use export in Bryce to do that job. It is in top menu click File/Export Waldoo

Sorry but you cant export Bryce obp-files out of Bryce. You can export terrains and thats about it. Sky.

I'm pretty sure Skygirl is right, but I do appreciate the responses. Does anyone know if it's possible to convert the .odp files independently of Bryce, that is, using some other app?

everything you import to bryce you can export from bryce in all form.. there is a little trick and is not standard in menu File/Export.. it works the way as you type hair in poser .. hidden option

the bryce format is proprietary and no one so far has a conversion tool. However, you can export terrains, rocks, lattices and previously imported objects and they will export with texture attached (if its an image texture - exporting with a procedural texture attached gives mixed results). You cannot export primitives, metaballs or trees and if you boolean the items that are on the export list, the boolean group will not export. Its a bit of a bummer.

OK, I'll have to re-install Bryce to do that, but I'll see what I can do. Thank you very much, Catharina and everyone.

ad a stone to the scene in Bryce click the edit mesh option and when the pup up window open just click Ctrl+D and the save/export option open in your Bryce scene.. now you can save your objects in any form you wish.. this works with terrain, stones and all what you import to bryce..

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Brycers- please save this website in your Favorites list. Ol' Wolfie has been helping Brycers get tons-o-models out of Bryce since the Summer of '69! (Heh- just kidding there) I have been getting nearly 90% of my years of collecting Bryce models OUT OF BRYCE as 3D meshes and WITH Textures, into Vue (since the ancient Vue 2 era, when mankind had not yet even invented the wheel- heh- just kidding again). Nearly ALL of my Bryce models into Vue can look indentical to the original Bryce scenes with a little tweaking- usually lighting and atmosphere choices make the difference. I have so many former Bryce models in Vue and Poser now you wouldn't believe it! Yes, you cannot easily export Booleans out of Bryce (but read Wolfies method) The vast majority of madels made and used in great Bryce scenes over the years were made in 3DStudio, Lightwave, or some other "foreign" modeling app. Most Brycers use Booleans for making buildings and various general scene filling objects (but some have actually made some great detailed Boolean models, but I think it makes up only about 10% of the models you find for downloading). BTW- here are important tips: You need to at least Bryce 4.0.1. ---4.0.1 was the last Metacreations service release for Bryce and the great Brycer technies decided to lay in some GREAT Easter Eggs for all their Brycer buddies as they knew their days at Metacreations were numbered and they would soon be on the street looking for work. When Corel took over Bryce they released version 4.1, which still included the Easter Eggs and mainly updated things to say "COREL" instead of Bryce. I never got the Corel update so I don't know what else it did. I still use 4.0.1 now on Win2000 and it STILL runs great when I need it. Also Remember when EXPORTING using Wolfies tutorial- Some models export better as LWO, Some as OBJ, some as COB, and some as 3DS. I have found that an initial format selection will CRASH Bryce- so just reload again and choice another format. While OBJ's often work the BEST, it is an ASCII format and takes longer to process out. Also, if you can get a model out of Bryce closer to its original model format (like LWO or 3DS, etc.) you will find that it will be better grouped for texturing, etc. The other thing to know is- in rare cases a model can be a HYBRID of MESH and BOOLEAN, and you will have to ungroup and select only the MESH part if you still want it out. HERE's WOLFIE (It's been there FOREVER, as far as I can remember) 1. Select "Bryce" 2. Select "Tutorials" 3. Select "Intermediate- EXPORTING" (Exporting Rocks & Meshes) READ IT CAREFULLY. Wolfie is a dedicated Brycer and has also told me this works for Bryce 5 as well.

Thanks Veritas777 for your reply.. sounds excited what you said!

It actually works better in Corel than Metacreations. Corel squashed some little buggers in the export. I have no problems at all with Bryce 5.

What I cannot understand is why any sane person would want to export from Bryce to Poser. The traffic should be all in the other direction.

I want the damn trees out of Bryce into VUE..Can't afford Xfrogs trees....;o)

Checked out the site, didn't see anything about the trees :(, I guess I just don't know what they are considered....I'm an idiot

There are ALL kinds of tree types in Bryce. By B4 they were even giving people 2-D tree samples as well as hybrid mesh-boolean trees and true 3D mesh trees. You can get the "leaves" and "bark" out of Bryce if they use texture maps instead of proceedural textures (native Bryce). You can also get out 3D trees if they are in fact 3D meshes. 2-D "faked" trees were/are popular because they render much faster and often look the same. Many programs use this technique and it is even useful in Vue. There have been some nice Vue tutorials posted about this as well. Actually, Poser often uses 2-D trees, such as in the cyclorama, and they work great too for most renders. True 3D mesh trees work well for close-ups. You can get TONS of free plants and trees on the internet. I have more than I could use in my own lifetime of 2D, 2D Hybrid and 3D trees, with real bark and leaf textures. Just look around, they are everywhere. With the X-Frog DEMO you can use it free for 30 days and get lots of very nice 3D mesh plants and trees WITH textures for use in Poser, Bryce and Vue. They look and work great in all three programs.

"What I cannot understand is why any sane person would want to export from Bryce to Poser." Because some times we sane folks choose to render in Poser for reasons proximate to Poser. :-) What I was hoping to do was to convert the Bryce object without using Bryce at all. Apparently that's not possible. I found an .odp object, a nice looking cluster of grapes. I haven't seen grapes of the same quality in formats which can be imported into Poser. The scene I'm working on is going to be rendered in Poser. I uninstalled Bryce a few months ago because I found that even after several years of toying with Bryce, I prefer Vue d'Esprit. This scene, however, is going to be rendered in Poser.

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dlk30341: Bryce trees are native. Made of booleans and such. So they aren't exportable. Wolfie's stuff was written before Bryce 5 I think. There's a great set of fruit (yes, has grapes) from Snowfire Graphics at VIP. Very reasonably priced too.

Hi Spit, Yes, I was referring to B4 trees that I have from the Metacreations era. They offered other alternatives then because in B4, trees and plants were not Bryce's strong point. When Vue came out with truely superior trees and plants (the single greatest reason why I switched to Vue) and many people raved about Vue's tree-plant technology, this forced Corel to make much better native Bryce plants and trees as an upgrade selling point. But I was by then already hooked on Vue plants and trees- so I never got into B5- and therefore have never tried to export anything from it (since I DON'T have it!) I have heard people say that B5 does better "metal reflections" than Vue, but since I use Poser heavily and have the great option of DIRECT Poser file into Vue, WITH wonderful plants and trees, metal reflections are not my main area of interest. Vue wins every time for me- and I think that, from what I hear, the Marketplace is saying the same thing and there are considerable doubts about there ever being a Bryce 6. But of course, who knows? (Only the SHADOW KNOWS!!!)

The sad part is that Eon has not lived up to its promise of more vegetation. We can change the leaves textures and double up trees and stuff to make more, but we can do that in Bryce too. I prefer Vue's trees for distance over Bryce's treelab, but Bryce's closeup trees are better. Corel did not put the treelab in Bryce because of Vue. That was two years ago and at that time the Vue user base was quite small and not a consideration. I love the pz3 import but unfortunately I can't use OpenGL in Vue so I find it difficult to see what I'm doing for scene setup. Haven't quite got the right mix of wireframe resolution and interface speed worked out.

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Surfing my favorite Japanese websites lead to a link to Weiser3D, a German website devoted to Poser and Bryce. Found: Really nice PP2 grapes- plus entire fruit basket! No need to convert OBP to Poser! Click on Download, 1. Spit- Vue's strange silence about new vegetation is puzzling but frankly there are so MANY good options these days from other sources- especially from RNDA and their insanely multiplying woodlands, grasslands, forests, wildflowers, etc. for just $2.50 that I go nuts every time I go over there. I say forget LaRoo, the BEST DEALS are their plants! (But, I'm a plant kind of guy, anyway. )I'm not very excited about Mike 3, but I am turned-on by the Millenium Cat, and would like to see a Millenium Horse and other animals. Also a REAL Puppy and Kitty! CUTE SELLS! Where are the cute puppies, kittens and baby ducklings? Whoever GETS ON THAT will sell tons of them, I think. Yah- turn OFF OpenGL in Vue. It's a waste of time. I don't need it anyway, myself. I like it better without it. Also, TURN OFF shadows in Vue, you will get faster and better renders anyway, I think. Also visited the Bryce Forum and it really sounds like Bryce's DAYS ARE NUMBERED. Also lots of Corellers soon hitting the streets looking for work. Maybe they will plant some nice Easter Eggs in a final Bryce 5 service release like SURPRISE- full Poser import by hitting Control-P!

Oh, good find on the grapes! We were kinda highjacking this thread. LOL Sorry, Dean. Oh, I'm a vegetation nut too! I have all that stuff (AND LaRoo). But, you see, it's just as usable in Bryce as in Vue. All I'm saying is that Vue's built-in vegetation isn't the selling point it used to be. It's a great program though. I'm not worried about Bryce 6. It will come eventually. Depends on who ends up owning Bryce. And for all we know it still could be Corel.

That's nice of you Spit, but there's no need to apologize. It wouldn't be a Renderosity thread if it didn't weave all over, and besides, there's lots of interesting stuff in this one besides my original issue. Hey Veritas777, thanks so much for the link! That's a fantastic site in general, and the fruit plate looks a lot better than what I was going to use. Woo-hoo! Happy virtual grape eater over here. :-)

I always think it strange when people say that Bryce or Poser's days are numbered just because there won't be a new version. Either the current version is usable or it isn't. If it is usable, it will always be usable. The program won't go away as long as people continue to use it. People seem to be fixated on upgrades!

Well Phantast you are right about that. I STILL use Bryce 4.0.1 and have been very happy with it for my needs. Still comes up with "Metacreations" logo- kind of nostalgic in a way. But like a good old car, it still runs nicely and what I guess we are actually talking about is the rise and fall or different corporate entities and not really the software itself- which will live on as long as our operating systems support it. I'm running Win2000 and ol' Bryce 4 seems to run better than ever on it. It's the same reason too why I still use Pro-Pack instead of P5. I would still be using ol' P4 from Metacreations if they hadn't thrown in enough new changes to make it worth getting CL Pro-Pack. For me Vue 4 is a bridge from Bryce. It does more things that I want now yet still has the old ray-tracing familiarity that Bryce has. Bryce has probably been a victim of corporate politics and bad business decisions. I'm sure the people running Mojo World probably would have been better caretakers of Bryce had they been able to aquire it- maybe running it on a smaller business scale the way E-On Software runs Vue. Vue has been successful because they are, 1. Truely Dedicated (the way the original Bryce team was), and, 2. Keep their business operation and overhead LOW- meaning profitable and sustainable.

BTW Spit, I certainly am a fan of Vista Internet Products (VIP) and think they also are providing some really fine products- the kind of stuff I guess I like- ducks, chickens, fruit stands, barns and all kinds of great animals. Also like Sams3D stuff and I own all of Cal's stuff (from buying his low-priced CD's.) Cal's collection is a fantastic trip into Americana, Nostalgia and Country Lifestyles. All of them make using Poser, Bryce and Vue a real pleasure! Thanks to all of them for their great work!

I love Wayne Grindberg's stuff! Have two of the CD's. And most of the stuff from VIP though I'm a bit behind there lately. When folks speak of Bryce and Corel in the same breath, they usually forget how excited and delighted the Corel folks were to get Bryce in the first place. Beta testing Bryce 5 was one of the best experiences in my life! Anyone who partook of that magic time would really feel bad about the bad-mouthing that's going on about Corel. Those folks LOVED the program and were totally dedicated. It's not their fault that Corel as a corporation has run into problems (again). Bryce 5 is very polished and almost totally bug free! That took a lot of work on Corel's part!

Brycers are certainly a dedicated lot, that's for sure. Obviously Bryce doesn't HAVE to HAVE Corel as a corporate owner to remain popular with its user base. The real problem will be- whoever may wind up with it will have to make it their baby. Like Curious Labs, Bryce could wind up with, say, an "unknown" company owning it, like the group in Germany that actually OWNS Poser. Obviously like with my use of Bryce 4, a Bryce 5 could continue on for many years without any major investment in it. The problem however is that their overall marketshare will continue to dwindle if Vue keeps improving their software and adding new features, while Bryce remains stagnant. Corel, to me seemed very odd in the way they handled their Metacreations aquisitions- like Painter- they seemed to completely want DISTANCE Painter from the Corel brand, and have it under a somewhat odd new label, which I think never did Painter much good. In the end, it seems the best software is created and maintained by relatively small companies. Big corporations are heartless and run by bean counters in many cases. Hoepfully Bryce will find a nice home and live happily ever after!