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Subject: Re: Size of the Millenium Cat


KateTheShrew ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 3:08 PM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 1:16 AM

Whose brilliant idea was it to make the silly thing the size of a mountain lion? I have to scale the sucker down to 30% - 40% to get it sized right in relation to the human characters. Yeesh. KateTheSlightlyCranky


SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 3:12 PM

Hahaha. I haven't rendered it with anything else yet, so I had no idea of the scale. Maybe it's scaled to match the House Mouse, which is also huge. :) I better not tell my own cats, they'll be scared out of their coats. :)

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Little_Dragon ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 4:05 PM

I only had to scale it down to 75% to match my eldest cat, Phoenix. Admittedly, most people who've seen him claim he's half mountain lion anyway ....



TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 4:11 PM

Oh I am so glad you mentioned it. I thought I had been doing something wrong L I even reinstalled the cat. Yes it is HUGE. It'll probably fit the HouseMouse, but certainly not any human characters. I dunno why.

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Veritas777 ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 4:34 PM

I think the MilCat WILL be a Mountain Lion and other large jungle cats. I bet you will see new Jungle Cat morphs and things-like-that showing up later on at DAZ. MilCat can also be morphed into other things too, which we haven't seen yet. Still waiting for Capsces David Letterman morph for MilCat and other Katsanne MilCat characters.


Veritas777 ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 4:41 PM

LOVE putting hairstyles on the MilCat. My favorite is blonde Goddess hair! What a HOOT!!! The Seal Point Siamese is an absolute Asian Babe with Lulu Hair. Rivals all Anime babe Characters out there!


SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 5:42 PM

Veritas, you are an extremely sick individual. I approve. :)

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Little_Dragon ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 5:49 PM

You should try Anton's Fantasy Beard ... great start for a lion character.



MallenLane ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 5:58 PM

Sorry it just made modelling, morphing and jointing easier. Poser humans are already extremely small. Its roughly the same scale as the p4 cat. I had thought about a large cat set (which would likely need different joints) but I wasn't sure there was enough interest.


Caly ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 6:01 PM

I'm very interested... Lions & Tigers & Cheetahs & more, yeah! :) Go for it! :)

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Little_Dragon ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 6:05 PM

Same here. Not that the Poser lion isn't nice (it's one of the few original animal figures with posable eyeballs), but it's well overdue for an upgrade.



geep ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 6:09 PM

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This is a special one-page tut just for you folks. Use it in good health. cheers, dr geep ;=]

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MallenLane ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 6:30 PM

Poser's internal measurement system is wrong, so i don't understand how you got that chart. It doesn't confirm to any modelling programs which all work by one standard. V3 is 2.74 mm tall.


geep ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 6:35 PM

" ... i don't understand how you got that chart."- - - - - -

Um, well, er, .... I guess ya caught me ... ... I cheated and I used a spreadsheet program. ;=] cheers, dr geep ;=]

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MallenLane ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 6:49 PM

Er still half asleep here. Feet I meant.. and I added a few inches to her too ;) Shes 2'4.39" feet in Lightwave. Which confirms to Maya's scale measurments, and every other program that I am aware of.


geep ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 6:53 PM

Yup, yer right ... but P4 (and earlier) had no 'real-world-scale' (per se) ... so I invented one.
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MallenLane ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 6:54 PM

a 100% figure scale export is 2' 0.8" fyi.


MallenLane ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 6:54 PM

So that makes V3 er.. 6'4"ish? heh heh


geep ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 7:02 PM

Yup, she a big 'un. ;=] (you ought to see her in heels!!!)

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geep ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 7:16 PM

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MallenLane, If you would like to know where the scale (shown in the chart) came from, you might be interested in this thread. cheers, dr geep ;=]

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 7:27 PM

"So that makes V3 er.. 6'4"ish? heh heh " Like my ex, then. (Hi Josephine!) And I'm only 5' 8". Not that I'm complaining; my face was usually close to some soft and interesting bits of her anatomy. :)

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whbos ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 9:45 PM

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You might have a point! The cat is a little large compared to Michael. But then again all three of my cats were always rather large. I don't think they were ever this big though. In this pic, the cat's head is just a little ahead of Michael but you can see he is a little large in comparison.

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Veritas777 ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 10:43 PM

The MilCat size is not a problem for me. As MallenLane pointed out, it helped to have the already small Poser scale of things to make the MilCat a little bigger. I can still see potential Jungle Cats lurking in the MilCat and hope that MallenLane makes these morphs or changes. I think the MilCat could be made into lots of neat characters.


Caly ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 11:12 PM

Look at the size of that critter! :D lol Let me get this straight, our amazonian Vicki is actually 2 feet tall?! :D My worldview is skewed now. :P

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 11:53 PM

Nah, Victoria is 6' 3", or thereabouts. The cat is huge, though. :)

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elgyfu ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 12:03 AM

Big cat, little cat - very nice cat! I do hope there is an ocelot morph one day coz I adore ocelots!


KateTheShrew ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 12:29 AM

I figured that ease of working with it was the reason it was so large, but now what do I do? Scale the cat down or scale the people up? giggle Decisions, decisions...


geep ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 12:48 AM

Why not ... ... do both. ;=]

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TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 2:01 AM

I'd scale the cat down. I've found that when you scale something UP, strange things sometimes happen with the edges and/or textures. Now can ANYBODY enlighten me to the cat's (and V3's) height in METRIC scale? I haven't a clue whether 6'3" is tall or not :o/

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elizabyte ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 2:25 AM

6 feet 3 inches = 1.90500 meters According to Google, anyway. (Y'all did know that Google has a calculator, didn't you?) bonni

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geep ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 2:45 AM

6'3" = 75" 75" x 2.54cm/inch = 190.5cm = 1.905 meters Hmmm ... I guess Google does it right. ;=]

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TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 2:55 AM

I DIDN'T know that Google have a calculator! Thanks for the tip! I LOVE Google and use it all the time, yet I didn't know that. blush

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TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 3:08 AM

Er... I STILL don't know WHERE Google keeps that calculator :o( I just can't find it. I even installed the Google toolbar, but still no calculator...

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Little_Dragon ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 5:46 AM

Google doesn't keep it anywhere. Just enter the values you want crunched into the search box:

2+3
((56*78)+2)/5
half a gallon in teaspoons
16 miles in kilometers

And behold the answers:

2+3 = 5
((56*78)+2)/5 = 874
half (1 US gallon) = 384 teaspoons
16 miles = 25.749504 kilometers



RHaseltine ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 6:26 AM

I'd be interested in big(ger) cat add-ons for MC, but I'd also like transmapped ear-hairs (at the moment they are just painted onto the inner lining of the ear which works only from the front) and a vertically furrowed cat-frown morph if the mesh will take it.


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 7:02 AM

Transmapped ear tufts should be feasible. The ears are separately posable body parts, so it'd be easy to create parented props with the bend option enabled.



RHaseltine ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 7:59 AM

That's what I was thinking - something like the Morphing Mask for V3. Ideally with a set of overlays to get rid of the fur from the existing inner ear textures.


dreamer728 ( ) posted Sun, 31 August 2003 at 11:32 AM

how about a conforming "catsuit" with transmapped fur for the long haired variety of cats?


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 4:09 AM

Not really that practical, especially if you want a patterned coat. I tried something similar on Lemurtek's Wolfgang figure, and the polycount for all those layers was astronomical, at least the way I did it. Perhaps brycetech has developed a more efficient design.

On the other hand, transmapped fur looks good in Poser 5; the Firefly render engine handles shading of the mesh far better than P4's.



sriesch ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 11:14 AM

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A large cat might go over well, depending on the species. One potential issue with the smaller cat, in that most of us don't have the option to add fur to it, could be even less of an issue with a larger cat where the appearance is less "fuzzy" in most places and a normal image map would do even better on it. For instance in this image (which is a crop of something else, don't recall where it came from originally) the only hair that is seriously sticking out seems to be localized to a patch on the belly, the insides of the ears, and of course lots of whiskers. most of the rest of the critter is smooth. (hmmm. there are some grass models out there... anybody experimented with using that as little tufts of fur yet?)


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