I have just posted two pictures in the gallery. One has a nude lady and the other has both a nude lady and (horror of horror) a bare male bottom! Aren't I a little devil! I consider them erotica not porn - coz they are suggestive not obvious. Besides, I once read that it was erotica not porn if you would show you mum - and my mum has seen these and approved. I do hope you guys do too! I didn't include them in this post coz I wasn't sure if I should - I genuingly don't want to offend anyone.

"I consider them erotica not porn - coz they are suggestive not obvious." Be aware and that some people think nudity is pornography and let's not slam them for it. I had a friend recently get publicly slammed and privately really slammed because she feels that nudity is pornography. It's her right to feel that way without getting slammed for it....and yeah at the risk of being slammed, I agree with her....I don't think nudity is "art" but pornography...so what! Big deal! No one lives with my values but me so don't slam me for it. Hopefully you marked them as nudity and didn't include nudity in the thumbnail...then no one that doesn't want to view nudity doesn't have it surprised on them...:>)

Well, Mr. Webster would disagree that nudity = pornography but I agree with Dizzie that it's not right to put people down for holding that opinion - caveat - as long as they don't try to force their view on others. Bare male bottoms aren't my preferred viewing but if mum's OK with the bum, then I reckon it's kosher.

Art has nothing to do with dress or nudity. Me (Quixote) nude is not art by any stretch of the imagination. Me nude as a form study by a serious artist may become art. And it has nothing to do with me or the fact that I'm nude. Form is the key here. Get away from the nudity taboo. Nudity is a tool that an artist can use to get a point across or to revel in the beauty of the human form.

I repeat that I do not wish to offend anyone - I set the nudity tab and of course the thumbnails are innocent. The MMM picture was supposed to be humorous. If you do not know to what it refers then it is just a bum and some boobs - I only posted it after seeing that a full-frontal male had been posted and was deemed acceptable. Bodies are natural but NO-ONE would want to see mine naked! You are quite right to stand by your opinions Dizzie and I hope you were not offended by this. And I also agree that too many things nowadays use nudity just coz they think it is shocking. Anyway, If you don't like nakedness then fine, don't unset the nudity-disallowed tab. I just with they had a tab for anything containing an earthworm! I clicked on a piccy the other day and it had a huge super-realistic specimin - I hate earthworms!!! Ughhh!

Thanks elgyfu! I wasn't offended at all...just speaking something that I was thinking about that your post reminded me of....:>)

We're all born nude. Is a naked baby porn? ;) Nudity & pornography have different definitions in the dictionary. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions of course... :)

We're all born nude. Is a naked baby porn? ;) Nudity & pornography have different definitions in the dictionary. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions of course... :)

The picture has been taken down from the gallery now so I guess that the 'powers that be' didn't approve. Sigh. I guess I will be forever branded a pornographer now. Sigh. And me, a respectable thirty-something mum. Sigh again.

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Elgyfu, don't feel badly ... here at r'osity "the powers that be" don't got a sense of humor.

If nudity = porn then every art history course in the world is making students view and study pornography. ;) bonni

Nudity makes human beings crazy. Covered up nudity makes human beings crazy. Nudity revealed to humans who are used to seeing it covered up makes them crazy. If you think you aren't affected by any of the three statements or you are "above" the whole nudity issue, no matter what side of it you are on, you Are crazy. I'm crazy for thinking I could break the cycle of craziness over nudity by writing a post about it in a software forum. ...and I'm Crazy for lu-uvin' Youuuuuuu! -Willie Nelson

Sorry I missed them, elgyfu. From your description, I can't imagine why they were pulled. Probably, someone complained and in those instances, the TOS doesn't seem to be worth the digital paper it's printed on.

the root of the word "pornography" refers to prostitution, not naked people. Nudists I am sure would take offense to Dizzie calling them names too. This one can cut both ways. I suppose you would call the photos my boyfriend made in Papau-New Guinea porn too eh? They don't wear any shirts there, not the men, not the women either. What they wear around the waist is also minimal. Was taping their tribal dance pornography... uh, no. I don't think a single sane person here would find that pornography. If you don't like nudity, don't look. Don't hold the rest of us to your standards, either, because your standards aren't the norm for the majority of human societies.

Attached Link: http://www.wolfs-fotos.de/PNG/11_Kitava/index.htm

And btw... people sunbathe here in Germany topless and even nude in Germany at beaches and lakes... nobody thinks much of it. So don't apply your Puritan standards to the photographs in the links. The people were just performing for the tourists and wanted the photos taken. Not every society shares the same taboos on dress. And that is what they are... social taboos. These people in Papau-New Guinea have different taboos than we, just like Germans have different taboos as well. Its my opinion that seeing the human body nude in a non-sexual way desexualises it. Covering it up, and things such as lingerie and tight clothing... which accentuate and improve your figure, actually sexualise your body much further than if you were nude. Fact is, most people you really don't want to see nude... its not that interesting, trust me, you'll scream "Cover that up!"

p.s. Elgyfu... you can post at other sites that let you post any amount of nudity. I do post nudity here, but I am very careful to avoid the obvious display of genitalia on Renderosity. I do postwork female genitals to be less obvious on nudes I post here, and I avoid the display of male genitals when I can... (add lots of hair and keep the penis small... it does wonders g) So my renders here don't show any more nudity than a typical marketplace render for a texture. However... at Renderotica and GayPoserArt I post much more risque stuff. Your work would be welcome at both sites, if you choose to explore erotica themes. I'd love to see more women posting at both sites.

Ok this is really getting out of content!

AND YES elgyfu was sent a very nice and detailed email explaination as to why her image was removed!

And I did stress to elgyfu that ... the Reason the image was removed was NOT due to Nudity :[

IF nudity was a problem to Renderosity [which it is NOT] we would not have any images in the gallery!

ladynimue

my responses are mainly aimed at the porno=nude opinion of Dizzie, which came before the deletion of the pictures I never did get to see. I am not against the rules of this site... its a PG-13 site and its got a right to have its rules for people who browse the site from work, plus the younger viewers here. Its about the art, mainly the technical end... and its fine to keep the focus more narrowed. Adult erotica (of the more risque kinds) is generally not allowed here for that reason. Erotica usually goes much further than simple nudity. And its important to know where to post those pictures, if that's your favourite genre. I don't want to see people having to stay in the closet and hide what they like doing. I do tend to post on these topics, as I am also a 30 something woman who enjoys this topic matter, and I like to make it clear that its ok and natural for women to enjoy erotica, its not a little boys club to make these pictures. ;) And its not obscenity, either... nor is it bad that a woman enjoys it. I simply offer support for female artists who wish to explore that direction.

Hi bijouchat,

Thank you for your very thoughtful and well worded post.

Thank you also, for being so considerate as to post your views in a constructive non-accusing manner. Very refeshing viewpoints as well!

I agree with you totally; that woman enjoy erotica as much as men, and as far as Renderosity goes, it does not make any difference if an artist is male or female when posting images to their gallery and applying Renderosity Terms of Service. Everyone's images are treated with the same degree of fairness.

I am also very happy that there are sites like Renderotica, so people can enjoy that form of art! I am not ashamed to say that I hold a membership to Renderotica. And I also know that Renderotica has their own set of TOS. For example, you cannot post an X rated image in the R rated gallery. So, to that extent, both sites [Rosity and Rotica] impose TOS to their gallery images :)

Again, thank you for your thoughtfulness,
Wishing everyone a most wonderful week.
ladynimue