dirk I think saying "Daz releasd a piece of crap"....."it sucks" is a bit much. Daz released an inexpensive model that has some issues that they will, I am sure, look at and resolve. Beyond that, for the price, I don't think we can expect "auto robo-man" or "auto" anything for that matter.....that's what the dials are for. Daz needs to note the issues with the mesh and work on them. But if you want something "ready to go, right out of the box", then you are probably looking at purchasing something a lot more expensive than what Daz is charging for M3.....something most of us cannot afford to do.

At the price of M3, or any DAZ models for that matter, we can actually afford them :) I've looked at our "professional" models...I'm afraid most are as expensive as the system I'm using...it actually blows my mind anyone, pro or not, would pay such prices, but suppose if you're doing Final Fantasy, or something, the cost of the model is rather low in the overall scheme of things. Having said that, M3, is quite a steal for what it does...although I'm still having problems with his appearnace...but as everyone always says, its your choice LoL... I have all the rest, may as well buy m3 too...at least he looks different.

dirk I think saying "Daz releasd a piece of crap"....."it sucks" is a bit much. Daz released an inexpensive model that has some issues that they will, I am sure, look at and resolve. Beyond that, for the price, I don't think we can expect "auto robo-man" or "auto" anything for that matter.....that's what the dials are for. Daz needs to note the issues with the mesh and work on them. But if you want something "ready to go, right out of the box", then you are probably looking at purchasing something a lot more expensive than what Daz is charging for M3.....something most of us cannot afford to do.>> Victoria 3 & Michael 2 are good examples of "something ready to go out of the box". If they did it before why couldn't they do it with Michael 3??!! I'll tell you why because you can push a mesh just so far. I had some premonition when I saw their April's fool gag with the amazing cube that would morph into anything. DAZ needs to go back to an original mesh for each character, look at their millenium kids, they are not as succesful as Victoria 1,2 3 and Michael 1,2 because they where also hammered from another mesh into a new shape. I'm totally convinced you need to start fresh if you want to have a succesful figure, not start pulling old vertices around into some new shape and when there is not enough vertices to get that necessary curve you end up with the problems we are seeing in Michael 3.

I don't think the success of the MilKids has ANYTHING to do with coming from Vicky's mesh. Except for the fae lovers, how many people do you know who used them? Who bought anything for them? Until our japanese friends released the TenTen fair, you never saw anything. Then you saw a few until the newness of the TenTen fair wore off. The success or lack thereof had to do with market demand, not what mesh they were based on. Aiko seemed to have done better for awhile, and she was based on Steph, who was based on Mike. (This is coming from me, who has almost every model that cam out. Diversity is a good thing.)

Well, in my opinion most Mill kids renders look like dolls, I still have to see a mill kid that looks as realistic as some Vicky's & Mike's renders. And for some reason nobody, not DAZ or Curious Labs has been able to come up with a baby that looks real or at least cute and not possesed. The cutest 3D baby after all this years is still Character Studio 1 Cha-cha baby.

The mill. kids can be made just as lifelike as every other Poser character. This one I made more than a year ago. It's the millennium boy.

Wow, I think you all just saved me a bundle and I will go empty out my wish list and put things for Mike 2 back in, like Ghost's body morphs and maps for Mike2... I will invest in the fantastic V3 male morphs and map sets --and save on that folder thing too.... by the way what I did was to keep the main ones (inject all body, inject all head, and I think I kept muscular too just in case) and took the other folders and "set them aside" to see what would happen..nothing went wrong at all. I am in the Plat club...Just got V3 finally and all her fantastic clothes etc....and yes, Mike3 will never be this cheap with all the add ons again, BUT he will eventually be made into what he should be I assume... I did actually wonder at the fantastic male morph ability of V3 coming along so well then the release of M3....