Well it appears that joe has 4 more of his classmate that wish to rid thereselves of Max R3.1 and Maya 2.5 at prices less than $300. For those of you who have not read my prior message on this, these are Texas A&M students who wish to sell there software that they purchased from the university and they are full version with liscence. So the deal still stands and the name list carries from my prior message FIRST COME FIRST SERVE. All you have to do is reply to this message and I will get back intouch ASAP leave your email address in your reply. Love, Peace, and Chicken Grease

I hate to step into this thing because I don't want BigSerge to take personal offense, but I think his friend is pulling a scam. CD's can be faked too easily. Did you get the manuals and Dongle for this program? I don't think you can even resell a student version of MAX. The following is from the FAQ of a MAX newsgroup. >Q: Is there a demo of 3D Studio MAX Rx.x available? A: No. Today there is only a full retail version and a student version of 3D Studio MAX. Both costs money. The limitations on the student version is that you can not use it for commercial purpose but otherwise it's a full featured version (i.e. no parts are taken out) and by the way, it DO come with real manuals. The student version just shows a splat screen when you start MAX that states that the version is not for commercial purpose. In the past two years I believe they've changed the rules regarding 3DS Max student licenses -- they are non-transferable, meaning you can't sell your copy once you've bought it (you can sell the professional version). The good news is that upgrading to a professional license from a student license is cheaper than buying a new professional license -- or so the salesperson told. Other than the actual applications the best you can manage without having to pay anything is a non-interactive demo CD that Kinetix will send you for free if you ask on their site www.ktx.com. Perhaps you can get a reseller to show you the program in action, but there are no guarantees. and here's more from http://cg.cs.tu-berlin.de/faq/3ds.faq ---4. Educational Purchasing Information --- - You get the education discount from an Autodesk representative that serves your school. I told the CAD support person the college I go to and the city it's located in, and they gave me the company name, representative to ask for, and the phone number to get hold of them. - If you are an undergrad, you can only buy up to 3DS version 2.0; if you are a graduate student or faculty, you can buy up to 3DS version 3.0. The cost of the software will be given by your representative, not from AutoDesk. This explains a few of the differences in prices I got from the responses of people from the net (anywhere from $795 to $895.) - You cannot upgrade the software (say from version 3.0 to version 4.0) but you do get bug fix upgrades. - It is a full working version with manuals and disks, and includes 1 CD-ROM disk and 1 hard key (there is a hardware lock which they have on all 3DS software, not just the educational ones, but retail as well.) - The software is for non-commercial use only. If you plan to use 3DS for commercial use, they give a $100 coupon with the Educational discount that allows you to trade in the Education copy plus the $100 coupon to take off the full price of the retail product. - You do not get free technical support. You will have to call your local representative and pay. There is a 900 number. (norkus@rtsg.mot.com)

Thanks for the info love2all, I will copy and paste your message onto an email and forward it to Joe. Untill I here his response back to this, THIS SALE IS ON HOLD until further notice. And If love2all is correct I apologize to those who have contacted Joe through me. As for Joe, I hope he is on his knees praying. Because he has know ideal that I work for the federal government and who I work for. I will keep you guys posted.

Love, Is correct about the dongle and the Educational License. Sergio - Did you get a hardware dongle? Its a peice that attaches to the back of your system. Its for copy protection. Clint

Nearly every day I see people at auctions selling copies of Lightwave and 3DS max for extremely low prices and I hate it. I will never buy hack-ware because of lack of support, and with lightwave owners, which I am sure is the same with 3DSmax, there are Newtek Sponsored User groups all over the country in most of the more densely populated states. The Benefits of buying a liscensed copy of one of the higher priced 3D solutions go far beyond the pleasure of just having a great piece of software.