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Subject: Morph makers out there??


dirk5027 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 7:36 AM · edited Thu, 14 November 2024 at 10:55 PM

As far as I can tell M3's nipples can't be resized, they are tiny little nubs, could somebody make a morph to fix that? I have noticed if your texture has large nipples on it, then so does your rendered mike, otherwise you barely can see them. This isn't a big deal but with 2 people in a scene they both have exactly the same little nipplets :)


pdxjims ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 8:50 AM

Ditto on this one, and more. I really like M3, but there is one thing that gripes me. V3 has many more morphs than M3. I wold expect that since they were made with the same unimest start, that most of the V3 morphs would have been included. Nipple morphs are just one of the ones. There were a ton a ethnic morphs with V3 (Celtic, German, Slavic, etc), that didn't make it to M3. A broaden chest morph would be nice. So would a Tone morph that doesn't increase the muscle size. Tone in M3 is more a muscle morph rather than a definition morph like in M2. And I know someone will add some morphs to his genitals. They're a really nice mesh, but the morphs are SO limited. I haven't tried Morphmanager on the facemorphs yet. Can't move the nipple morphs because on V3 they're part of the collars, while on M3 they're part of the chest. I'm trying it with the face morphs now. Maybe Tailor will will transfer some too. I want My Borus for M3!


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:03 AM

I think one reason that a lot of the ethnic morphs didn't get included is so many people complained about them. For every silent person that was using and enjoying them there was about 5-10 people saying "That person doesn't look French" I honestly thought it had a nipple size but I just looked and it didn't. A lot of people have textures with niples that are laer though so maybe that will sort of work.



dirk5027 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:04 AM

yea his pectorals could use some work, nice the way they are, but no bulk, for big bad dudes, yea we need boris and more face options


dirk5027 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:09 AM

Oh and yes pd genitals need tweaking, and played with..oops so do mine, did i say that?? ...blush..


randym77 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:17 AM

I miss the ethnic morphs. A lot of them didn't look like the people they were supposed to, but they were very useful nonetheless. You could mix and match them, and get a great variety of different-looking faces.


dirk5027 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:22 AM

wow that's cool, wish they had left those in then,i don't have v3 but more options for the face is really needed


pdxjims ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:31 AM

Ghost, I agree with the thing about the controvery, but instead they should have included them and said "frenchlike" or "facevariation1". randym hit it whith the mix and match stuff. And while some textures have nipple size variation (the new Christopher texture comes to mind - it's great), a morph would allow for older textures or small nipple textures to be used. dirk, There are SO many comebacks I could make to your post. It's just TOO easy. But then, so am I. (did I really say that? - I need more coffee!). Working on transfering head morphs from V3 to M3 with Tailor now. They're so dense and have such a high overhead, the transfer takes forever. The bad thing for me is that I know exactly how to do the nipple morphs, but the software I have, Amampi 5, doesn't do .obj imports and exports. I can do 3ds, but then I have to replace and resize to get the match, and it's never perfect. If anyone knows how to do this with Amapi, let me know please. Next month I'm going to upgrade to the newest version. Maybe that'll work better.


randym77 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:35 AM

Try playing with the ethnic morphs M3 does have. I rarely use the ethnic morphs "straight." Try using a little of this, a little of that. Or start with 100% of an ethnic morph, then try adjusting other head dials. Still, I do wish M3 had more head morphs. I want more morphs that help you to get a specific likeness. If Gryffnn ever does a MikePlus pack for M3, I'll be first in line to buy it.


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:41 AM

pdxjims True but trying to remember if it is variation 1 or variattion 11 is sort of prohibitive. Frenchlike is the same as French. It is sort of a Looks like Spider-Man thing so that they can say it isn't but it is suppossed to or whatever. Pure speculation, but I think that the vocal controversy or complaining or whatever sort of killed it for the people that liked them. Squeeky wheel gets the grease and all that ...



Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:43 AM

randym77 . I am not Gryffnn but I am sort of doing soemthing like that :)



randym77 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:46 AM

One way around the name problem might be to actually give each ethnic morph a character name. Instead of "French," call it "Michel" or "Jacques." More descriptive than "Variation 67," but not as loaded as specifying actual ethnicity.


pdxjims ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:52 AM

Ghost, I've been watching for your little teases every time I get in the forums. You do great work, bud, and I want that set. If you need a beta tester... (grin). I'll go ahead and buy it too when it comes out. Your sets for the V3 are superb. What software are you using for the morphs? Any guess when the M3 set will be ready? Feel the pressure build? BTW, I agree about the frenchlike, dumb suggestion by me. However, that variation by number may be hard to remember, but that's why we can add faces to the libraries.


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:58 AM

Most of the teases I have been doing are pure M3 morphs .. Just showing people you can twist the dials :) But thanks. I am mostly using ZBrush and magnets for the morphs I am doing now. Still doing some morphs and have been splitting time between that and another thing for the creatures. Also waiting to see what people wnt and trying to figure out how to convert a M2 texture to M3 since I am unable to use the texture converter etc ... I am hoping it won't be too long though.



pdxjims ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 10:17 AM

Too bad about the texture converter. It's about the best thing that was released for M3. If we could figure out how to do it legally, I'd convert anything you'd like. I have most of the good M2 textures, and a lot of the bad ones too. I am SUCH a junkie.


randym77 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 10:29 AM

I'd definitely be interested in your M3 head morphs, GhostofMacbeth. I'd especially like more chin and eye morphs. Eyes and eyebrows are key to getting a likeness, and as many have noted, it's hard to change M3's eyes much with the dials. I'd also like a morph that allows you to change the chin width.


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 10:33 AM

I have about 5 eyebrow morphs, about 5 eye morphs at the moment and a chin width morph :) It is a texture I made but I just made it for M2 and really don't want to redo it from scratch all because I am on a Mac. So I am trying to figure out what to do.



randym77 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 10:42 AM

Woo-hoo! And there was much rejoicing.... :-D And if it's a texture you made yourself, surely pdxjims could convert it for you.


capsces ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 12:09 PM

Just want to let Jim and Dirk know I am working on him. Though, I am a VERY long way from finished, maybe I can post some facials in a day or two. I'll try to post them in the Showcase Forum if that is legal. :) On another note, I haven't had a chance to play much with DAZ's M3 head and body morphs, but those I did try out looked very nice. I know some want the full head ethnic morphs; but I think breaking them down into individual morphs allows for many more possibilities. DAZ has created some good face part morphs for M3, which I think can be used with other morphs to create ethnic faces. I think it saves much more space to have the small morphs rather than the full head morphs, and create facial poses instead to get the different ethnic looks. Beth


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 12:45 PM

Good to hear Beth ... I have only played some with Boris but he does do a few things that I really like.



dirk5027 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 12:48 PM

Thanks so much looking forward to boris big time


cherokee69 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 5:39 PM

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gryffnn ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 6:35 PM

Hi Randym77, Glad you like MikePlus - did you get the notice for downloading the free Version2 upgrade via your Renderosity customer page? Tease: I'm working on something brand new and different for Michael 3 that will make customizing him really easy. Or rather I will be working on it again WHENEVER our electricity comes back on (hurricane, using phone line away from home at the moment, sigh...) And DAZ has my Michael3XprssnMagic in their Special Interest section. Elisa-the-disconnected/gryffnn


pdxjims ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 7:11 PM

gryffyn, Between Ghost, Capses, and you, you're gonna break me. But I'll have the neatest M3 there is. When I got into Poser and found M2, I made it a point of buying every morph package I could find. Combining the different optiosn made for some really neat Mikes. I'm going to do the same with M3. BTW, I love your XprssnMagic for M3. Saves a ton of time. You forgot the SmileSmallLeft though (grin).


randym77 ( ) posted Sat, 20 September 2003 at 9:31 PM

Actually, I think I bought the new version of MikePlus. I think I only noticed it when you released the new version. I'd have bought it earlier if I knew about it, believe me. It can be awfully hard to find anything in the MP. It's just so huge. I've spent a lot of time browsing, and usually click on banner ads for anything new, but I'm still coming across cool items that I never knew existed.


duanemoody ( ) posted Mon, 22 September 2003 at 7:01 PM

Looks like I have my work cut out for me. FWIW I thought DAZ busted their butts doing a decent job on the ethnic morphs for V3. As far as "French" is concerned, that's a pretty elusive concept on females. Make the men look like Depardieu or de Gaulle and people will howl bloody murder. Ethnic features are nothing more than a combination of tribal genetics and environmental adaptations, and moderate-climated western Europe is going to tend more toward the former than the latter. This is why I stick with names and don't pretend they're generic representations of their areas. If I had to do continental Africans, I'd have at least three very distinct facial types to do. Ethiopians and Kenyans are recognizable at a glance and don't resemble each other at all...


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