I wasn't entirely happy with some aspects of the pose of the setting in the original so I reposed the hand on the glass, did some things with skin tones, and added more to the background. UNfortunately PS crashed and I lost the original PS file so all the "grunge" work was lost. SO...comparisons please. So far I think the girl in the first piece looked more "classical" but I like the look of the seeting here better. I think I liked the first grunge better than this grunge too but...that is MY opinion. What's yours? Please?

wow, looking great! Just a few small things I noticed tho... Her eyes almost seem to not align? and her boobs are way too low..grins The new hand poses look wonderful! great job! (starts looking for faces)

Lol, Actually Jen, I think her "boobs" are correctly placed(if mammary, er, I mean memory serves!) Her spaudlers (shoulder armour) are elevated so she can raise her glass. I think this added height in the shoulders gives the illusion that her "boobs" are low. Besides, ya gotta admit that a girl couldn't get much more support than when she is wearing a steel corset!(I know,I know, it's a cuirass);-)

By the way, very classical looking work Claymor!

This is way better than your first posting. Her mammailian protruberances are set just fine and I like the idea of her holding out a glass. I did however prefer her expression on the earlier render, she seemed much more serious...and sadly, all the 'faces' have vanished. You could have put the skull in her hand and done a scene from Shakespeare........'Alas poor Yorik....etc' Very well done!

looks awesome!! love the postwork you did!

Ok, I do agree that the grunge was better in the first but this is really well done. I prefer the look of the figure in this one, there was something about her eyes in the first that bugged me but she looks great now. Excellent come back Claymor. 8) Catlin