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Subject: Animation Problem - Please help


Himico ( ) posted Sun, 28 September 2003 at 9:40 PM · edited Fri, 03 January 2025 at 7:17 PM

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I was using Premiere Pro. Is anyone using Premiere Pro? This animation was produced by Poser5, and exported as AVI file into Premiere Pro. The left hand picture is the input to Premiere Pro (output of Poser5). The right hand picture is the output from Premiere Pro. Please see the picture .

We have a black outline of the hooded cloak, and the inside of the semi transparent cloak is solid black.
How can I solve the problem?

The aspect ratio was modified. If you know how to fix, please let me know.

I posted this question at Adbe Premiere Pro forum.
But most people are using video camera over there.

Thank you.


abg24 ( ) posted Sun, 28 September 2003 at 11:14 PM

I dunno if this will help but here it goes.... AVI sux. Yes it is a basic language that is easily ready for import/export, but there is a massive amount of distortion. This you have seen. Try this: In Poser 5, add a little more lighting to the cloak model itself. Where ever you see darkness in the right model, then this is where you want to add lighting to. The aspect ratio was modified... Was it modified in Poser 5 or Adobe Premiere?


Himico ( ) posted Mon, 29 September 2003 at 12:15 AM

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Adg24, thank you for your response.

I did another test.
The left hand picture is the input to Premiere Pro (output of Poser5).The right hand picture is the output from Premiere Pro.Please see the picture .The timing of two picture is not same.

Again we have the black outline. We also have other problem areas which I pointed out by yellow lines in the picture.
While I am new to Premiere Pro, this program may have a problem. Or I have to adjust something ?

I did not have this problem when I used Premire6 demo version. Premiere Pro (7) is pretty new version.

The aspect ratio was modified by Premiere.
I also had sound problem which I did not have in Premiere6.


Hilt ( ) posted Mon, 29 September 2003 at 12:43 AM

Just checking but you're not using any nifty codecs, xVid or DivX, to pack animation? -Hilt


gammaRascal ( ) posted Mon, 29 September 2003 at 3:15 AM

i see a premiere problem here.. not a -poser one... my guess would be possibly your rendering out the incorect fields... mm... for avi... ? maybe ? also it looks like your compositing in premiere? two chicks, same bg... could be premiere cant handle the alpha from your poser render... maybe?




arfarfarf ( ) posted Mon, 29 September 2003 at 4:44 AM

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1. Black areas around character- Use .tiff image sequences when you render out your animations from Poser. For some reason, Poser messes up the alpha channels in the .psd or other image formats. I always get a good alpha channel with .tiff. In Premiere, when you're setting the Transparency Options for the image sequence, choose "Alpha Channel" and it should composite just fine... 2. Aspect Ratio- There's two ways to mess up image aspect ratio's in Premiere. It looks like you have correctly turned on "maintain aspect ratio" for your imported images. This can be turned on or off from the CLIP>VIDEO OPTIONS>MAINTAIN ASPECT RATIO menu. The monitor window displays the Pixel Aspect Ratio of your current project settings. If you're going to final output to movies you will play on your computer, you want Square Pixels. If you are going to watch your movies on a TV monitor, you need to choose the appropirate Pixel Aspect Ratio for the type of TV you'll be watching (PAL or NTSC). NTSC TV's use rectangular pixels (aspect ratio 0.9) and will appear stretched, or wider when viewed on a computer monitor. If you want, set your Pixel Aspect Ratio to Square Pixels (1.0) while you're editing, but don't forget to switch it back to the appropriate aspect ratio for your final output. Hope this helps


Himico ( ) posted Mon, 29 September 2003 at 10:09 AM

Hilt, Twisted_Symmetry, and arfarfarf, thank you for your response.

No, I did not use xVid or DivX.

Not a -poser one!
But, It was working with Premiere 6.

arfarfarf, thank you for your detailed instructions. I am going to try them.
I had one question which came into my mind. I am using lip synchronization voice of Mimic. How can we handle the synchronization voice when we use tiff image sequences?

Thank you again.
HimiCo.


gammaRascal ( ) posted Mon, 29 September 2003 at 2:16 PM

post... audio dub?




arfarfarf ( ) posted Mon, 29 September 2003 at 3:10 PM

Twisted Symmetry is correct- add the audio track to your image sequence in Premiere with a post audio dub. :)


Himico ( ) posted Mon, 29 September 2003 at 10:25 PM

Thank you.
May be it is the way to go. It is especially good when we have stereo sound which poser does not take.

arfarfarf,
you are right. When I turned off alpha channel, the above problem disappeared.
Probably Poser5 messes up the alpha channels.

Twisted_Symmetry,
unfortunatly, it seems that the problem belongs to poser5.

Anyway, thanks to you guys, now I know how to avoid the problem.
I am happy.

Thanks again.
HimiCo.


gammaRascal ( ) posted Tue, 30 September 2003 at 11:28 AM

rendred in psd from poser for compositing into a video file? thats right? so it seems a premiere issue to me, not poser.




gammaRascal ( ) posted Tue, 30 September 2003 at 2:27 PM

thought after thinking about it.. one could render out in any format they choose... personally i would have rendered in .png if i wanted to retain any poser transperancies... the background becomes the automatic alpha-channel. well in photoshop anyways. ive never used premiere pro. i use after effects 5.5 pro and ive never had any problems using .png's or transperancies in the image. i dont know what format himico initially rendered in and i dont wana say that any are better or worse than .png... i dont wana make any statements to that effect but i will say, ive goten nothing but good results from .png (which is also losless) and have never found a reason to render to .tiff or .psd. i use .psd to work in photoshop, i wouldnt ever consider using it as an imported file-type. though i understand the poserGUI is all .psd. i dont think 'outside' the box like some people. im a pretty good guesser.




arfarfarf ( ) posted Tue, 30 September 2003 at 3:38 PM

.png files are great! They stay small and work very well. I agree Twisted, it's a good format. But Premiere does not support that file type.


Himico ( ) posted Wed, 01 October 2003 at 12:30 PM

Attached Link: http://himico.org/premiere/alpha.jpg

Twisted_Symmetry,

please see the link.

It is alpha problem.
Poser5 produces a strange alpha in "AVI" format.

HimiCo.


gammaRascal ( ) posted Wed, 01 October 2003 at 5:27 PM

shrug i dunno... i dont work in premier but inported .avi with an alpha channel (um, unmatted ??? in after effects i cant remember, i get a dialoge that asks if i want to import the subsequent .avi matted, unmmater or ignore and i get a clean alpha)) but thats after effects... seems strange both adobe products support .avi differently... but i suspect, with no experience with your version of premier and your computer that, it would seem to me a premier issue to me.




Himico ( ) posted Wed, 01 October 2003 at 10:28 PM

When I used Premiere 6 demo, I did not have this problem. But I did not use background picture in Poser5. I just used background color in P5. I dont know whether it is relevant or not. The picture aspect ratio was not correct. The pixel aspect ratio was automatically set to the aspect ratio of the file which was square. Movie uses landscape aspect ratio. I used portrait aspect ratio. I dont know if they can deal with it or not.


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