Once you get past the weird name, youre going to love Photoshop 8 (opps! i mean Photoshop Creative Suite). I've been lookig over some of the new stuff, already put aside the upgrade fee! NAPP members should be seeing a special issue full of the new features in thier mailboxes soon (i already scouted out my mailbox)

here's Adobe's spin on Photoshop CS...

what do you guys think about it??

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very nice starts drooling

Think the Standard Edition would be all I needed. Adobe could not improve GoLive enough for me to ever want that load of crap and I could live with the Acrobat I have.

Apart from the text on a path (which will give us some more years of needless twirling text chiropracters love so much), I think it is more refining the app then really revolutionizing the way I will use it. I guess I will upgrade, professionally, but why call it creative suite? Do they really to expect all those Corel users will be mistaken? :-)

...but why call it creative suite?

I think it's a lame attempt to mimic MacroMedia's MX naming convention for their suite of apps.

... I think it is more refining the app...
i agree to a point, alot of the "new" features are geared towards photographers with a few tossed in for graphic artists.
The one feature i'm looking forward to is the Layer Comp, it's one that i've been doing a "workaround" for years (lately using the Layer Group feature).

anybody else???

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Layer Comp, niiiiiice. Improved 16-bit, droooool! Customizable keyboard shortcuts, finally, thank god. Yup, gonna have to start saving my lunch money for the upgrade... But I also have to say, why the name Photoshop "CS"? Photoshop is just Photoshop, it's not really a "suite", since it includes the stuff it came with before. Ah, well, time to stop complaining and shake down the couch for quarters... AS

I have a feeling Adobe will start adding the "CS" to a number of other apps just like MacroMedia. I know Adobe packages PS with Illus, InDesign, and GoLive as well as a "video" package (PS, Premiere, AfterEffects...) so this may be the direction it's going.

I like the tighter integration, but hate to think i'd need to have them all to get the full benefit of the prog...

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The sea-change in this new release is the copy-protection that will be instituted. Perhaps the CS stands for "copy schemes".

Yea, i noticed they were following Microsoft's lead with "Product Activation" (at least for Windows now...).

While i have no problem with this, i do find it a bit of a pain to move apps to new systems. I recently went through a "round-and-round" when, instead of upgrading, i purchased a new system and gave my daughters my old one. I spent a bit of time talking with Customer Service Reps trying to move licenses over to the new sys.

...more of a "pain-in-the-butt" than anything!

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If you are familiar with some of the - um - forceful exchanges in the Poser forum here then the product activation threads on the Adobe forums will make you feel right at home - particularly those on the InDesign and PS forums. Creative Studio comes in plain (standard) and fancy (pro) versions: PS, AI, ID are in both, plus Acrobat and GoLive in the big one, and a fancy "version management" utility which received a glowing write up in this morning's Guardian (London) but which I'm having trouble getting the full point of. The Studio packs don't include manuals for the applications, though the individual upgrades do, and if you buy a Studio pack you have to upgrade (if you decide to) to further Studio versions, not individual products on a pick-and-choose basis. Activation is like the Macromedia MX version - you can deactiviate when you want to move to another machine, so only dead hard disks or stolen systems should see you phoning support. You are also, I gather, allowed to activate up to eight times a year (at one-and-a-half month intervals, the way the XP activation resets after six months) which should cover all but the most unlucky.

Forgot to add: you are allowed to activate on one desktop and one laptop, the requirement being that you not use both at the same time (but there's no enforcement of that).

Actually, im satisfied with 5.5

Newest versions are faster in some aspects, but creative? just type in somethin, use predefined textures and styles... oh dudes, wheres my sketchbook?

Attached Link: http://www.dvformat.com/2003/09_sep/features/adobecs030929.htm

You kiddin? I think even PS 4.0 is still powerful. (depending on what all you need it for) Photoshop is great in that way (imo), that earlier versions still show their use and power. I think upgrading is just a choice in needing (or wanting) the new/expanded tools. *BTW - A 9 page article giving more details on the new CS suite - At the link.* AS

Those who really know what Photoshop is all about will really welcome the expanded 16 functionality. It's something that professionals have asked for for years! Something else that most people don't know; the patch tool in CS will show you a preview in your selection, a great improvement. I'm really disappointed though that they didn't include non-destructive effect layers that was promised some months ago.

The non-destructive filter layers were a rumour, rather than a promise. The view on the Adobe forum seemed to be that they were a misunderstanding of the (rather limited looking) filter gallery gizmo, but someone may have seen the "Photo filter" adjustment layers (which carry out colour shifts mimicking various camera lens filters) and jumped to the wrong conclusion. Or of course they may have been there in an early version but not ready in time.

Yeah, the article at that link, says it doesn't mention all the new bells and whistles of the upcoming Photoshop, but why they wouldn't mention the non-destructive effect layers, would be beyond me. There is the Layer Comps feature (top of page 3), that's quite nice, but not exactly non-destructive effect layers, lol. Another little gizmo I like the sound of is the new Lens Blur, "which allows highlights in an image to take on the shape of a simulated lens aperture" (which is also called "Bokeh") and "also includes a set of Photo Filters for simulating the appearance of photographic lens filters". I use this stuff already in some of my post-processed renders. AgentSmith