Lo all Well got me copy this mornign and have been playing already Now i have encounterd a few problems already,open gl works well i must say thought lol .thats a first as ive never been able to use open gl in vue 4 due to my navidia card but now it is great in pro. Right here are the probs i got already ,cant import poser scenes in pro see image below The metal materials are not working if i choose any of them all i get is a black colour see image, i updated vue 4 again today with the 1.2 update and i can import poser pz3, i couldnt do that before i installed pro weird eh !! Mover 4 installed ok i like all the editers ie plants and the like i tryed inporting the extra plants on the cd but it asks for the serial numbers for the plants i dont have the serial numbers and i cant find them on the cd..very annoying im sure il come across some more little things that will get me goat up,im so looking forward to this program working correctly,if it doea at all that is for the upgrade price of 199 sterling plus tax whcik worked out at 242 english pound sterling ..yer alot of money for an upgrade i know but hey thats the price for living in england i spose hahaha any ideas on how i can get this to import scenes from poser 4 and any thoughts on the metal materials as it is getting right up my nose at the moment regards seeklight

ok I reinstalled pro and it seems ok at the moment except i still cant import any thing from posert dont know why but now its realy bugging me The materials have been sorted by the install,again i love the open gl haha and also i totaly love the plantr editer I just dont know why i cant import from poser4 and poser is all up to date and so is vue pro apparently as it looked for updates as soon as i started the program now please please any one help me as im pulling me hair out and i only had the prog for about 2 hours lol at this rate il be totaly bald at the end of the day regards seeklight

Would you (or anyone else reading this) mind taking a look at my post from a few days ago and see if you can address any of my questions about Vue Pro? Especially since you are interested in Poser imports (once you get it working of course), as no one else seems to know or care. Thanks, Tim

Okay, I have Vue 4 all updated and Poser 4 also. When I installed Vue Pro all seemed to go well. I have the plants too, but they were not downloaded to me, it said to install them first into Vue 4, I did have the serial numbers emailed to me. After the install Vue 4 got sick and said no I don't want these plants....exported them right out. So I decided to install them in Vue Pro and all but 2 worked alright, the other 2, well I just don't know what is happening. When I got Vue Pro installed and wanted to import my first Poser 4, it said we can't find poser.exe, so I pointed it in the direction to find it and have not had any more problems in that end of it. My GL worked great in Vue 4, but does not work in Vue Pro, I don't know why, it should. I hate not having that also. So those so far are my problems, some of my plants work, some don't, no GL and it just started to recongnize Poser 4. Have not even attempted to install my mover 4...too scared. Sharen

lo sharon well i have mover 4 in and it works a treat as for open gl i have a gforce 4 titanium 4600 and the gl works fantastic lol whcih made a nice change from vue 4 not being able to run it i even uninstalled vue 4 now and did a fresh install of vue pro while that sorted the materials out i still cant import from poser and it dont even ask me toi look for the poser exe bhohooooo seeklight

timoteo1 I can't help you with animation, I am still learning, but rendering times, with Poser I think really has to do with the textures themselves, especially if they are high definintions, and the Boolean works great, but that always has for me. They only thing I really notice is the difference Vue 4 and Vue Pro has on different OS...I really think that is a huge key. Can't prove it, but I have seen many improvements on Vue 4 and Vue Pro when they go on my old OS and then go on my new OS. I always use my XP, but I use to have ME first...ME was okay, but XP is great with it. Sharen

Sharen: Sorry, I think you misread my post. I wasn't speaking about render times at all. I was talking about how SLOW the INTERFACE gets after Poser import, especially animated Poser scenes. I use WIN2K and would install Pro on the same machine, so there would not be any kind of OS boost for me. If you were using ME (probably one of the worst OS's created) you will notice a difference in everything you do. Any OS based on the NT kernal (NT, 2000, and XP ... aka the "kickass kernal") will be a huge improvement over almost any other OS you have used. Not just for 3D apps, but literally everything you can/and will do. Thanks for the input! -Tim

tbh i found that when i used to use win2k i never stoped getting problems with vue then i upgraded to win xp pro and all seems to work well no isuuses outher that the ones i staed before but thats down to eon not the os regards seeklight

Hmmm, that's interesting. So you think maybe they implement "some aspect" of XP that is not programmed well for 2K? What kind of problems were you having? Also, are you able to import a Poser scene (say Mike 2 or Victoria 2) for example and not have the timeline or interface in general bog down? Thanks, Tim

well when i was on 2k my vue would always and i mean always suffer a death when it ran it would shiut down if i was doing a complex scene and yes when i used any thing from poser it would slow my machine down terrible and my pc specs are as follows gygabyte dual bios mobo,gforce 4 titanium 4600 and 1 gig of ddr ram so thats y i switched to xp pro regards seeklight

ps when i used just vue 4 i had no problems animating in vue it always ran very smooth even with imported poser anims seeklight

Ok, now I'm confused ... what do mean "when I used just Vue 4" ... as opposed to what? Thanks! -Tim

sorry as apposed to using vue4pro in pro i cant even use any thing from poser

Ok, but when you were having problems with JUST VUE4, that was ONLY when you were using your Win2K machine, correct?

yes correct

yes correct, althought now im using vue pro and the os is xp pro i can not import any poser items either obj or saved pz3 seeklight

Gotcha. Ok thanks! Sorry to hijack your thread! :) -Tim

no worrys mate hope it helped ,tnh i luv vue pro if im honest just a little miffed at the fact i cnat import from poser haha seeklight

E-on kind of pulled a fast one with the plants. The 'extra' plants are only extra if you already bought them and have the serial numbers to unlock them. With the proper s/n then you can unlock the pro (wind-enabled) version of these plants. This to me was the biggest snafu - they said we'd be getting new plants with pro but new plants must just mean the new palm tree. At this point for all the beta testing we are doing on this shipping product it would be nice if e-on would give us the key to these 'extra' plants. There are definitely some things to like (see my earlier post on vue4 first impressions on the Mac) but there are some troubling things that don't normally show up in a professional product. Poser4/Mover4 import not working is just insane and they are fixing it, and one the Mac you currently can create a new species of plant but can't actually use it. I know e-on is a small company, but these are pretty basic things to test and they were missed. Now you all can see why there is a discount in the early days of a product - you get to be a front-line beta tester for the price of the upgrade. I personally have a nice animation on hold waiting for the promised mover4/poser4 import to work. Scott

I've said it in other threads, but I guess what is really getting to me is the fact that there are quite a few things that SHOULD HAVE WORKED in Vue 4, which it appears are fixed in Vue Pro. Why should we have to pay for something (AGAIN), that was promised originally?

not to start a flame war, but this is starting to have an odor similar to the Poser 5 release "snafu" ;-)

well i thinks its a disgrace i have just been told that the new veg in pro will only work if i buy a licens for them ie serial numbers now that is a big ripoiff these companys however large or small should be held accountable for these total and utter misleading reports me is very pissed off sorry but thats how i feel a scam from the get go seeklight

Interesting information... guess I will hold off on Vue4 Pro till all is worked out..

Correction - only the ADDITIONAL veg in vue pro won't work without a s/n. The standard plants that come with vue pro (including the new palm) all work with vue pro wind and editing from the get go. Just wanted to be sure you were clear on that. All the normal plants work great. Scott

Why do I have to pay to upgrade to get opengl to work? Marque

Exactly ... and why do I have to pay to get animated Poser imports to work smoothly? (If that indeed is fixed in Vue Pro ... still waiting for those test results. :) ) Marque: Have you imported animated Poser scenes into Vue4 (with Mover4 of course)? If so, do you experience the mass interface slowdown, and complete unresponsiveness of the timeline in Vue? Thanks, Tim

Haven't tried it since I installed the beta update but will give it a shot to see. Marque

THANKS!!

Did it with the beta and it worked grat, not too sure I want to install the final update now that I hear there are problems with it. Marque

Marque: Just to clarify, after importing an ANIMATED Poser scene (say Mike2 or Vicky 2 waving their arms) you can open the timeline, then DRAG THE TIME MARKER SMOOTHLY? There is no delayed response, the marker moves as you drag it in real or near-real time? For me it is in secondS (like three) before it will end up where I have drug my mouse. Thanks, Tim PS> What OS and system specs?

Win2k pro system 2.5 1 gig ram Didn't check it for smoothness rendered a preview and an avi, but will check again. Did one of Steph with hair and clothes running. Marque

I don't have vue pro, I have Vue with Mover. Marque

Just did one with Vickie and it is jerky also can't move my timeline smoothly. Wish these companies would STOP coming out with new versions i.e. Vue pro until they FIX the version we have. Getting tired of having to update to another version and pay MORE money to get a program that will do what they STATED IT WOULD DO IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Come on people get it right! Yes, I'm upset, it was working fine with Vickie until the update. Marque Oh, and to whoever called me from the company and left a message on my answering machine without leaving a callback number, not only was that unprofessional, it was rude.

Yes, I can render a preview and AVI's ... that's not the problem. The problem is you can't move the timeline marker smoothly once a Poser object is loaded. This makes it near impossible to do animations in Vue. Anyone who can work with a 3-second delay when scrolling the timeline ... well, God bless them! Like try animating the Vue camera around the animated character ... maybe a ten-second pan around the figure. Now try moving the scrolling the timeline marker to tweak your animation and preview it in one/all of the views. -Tim PS> I'm still interested if you can indeed do it in Vue 4 "plain vanilla".

"Just did one with Vickie and it is jerky also can't move my timeline smoothly." EUR-FRICKIN-REKA!!!!!! Sorry, I don't mean to sound over-jubulent at your troubles, it's just that I KNEW I could not be the only one. One other person told me they did not have this problem (a whopping one person), and (apologies to whomever you are) I SIMPLY DON'T BELIEVE IT, and won't believe it until I see an AVI screen capture movie of you scrolling the timeline in realtime with an aniamted Poser figure loaded. The problem is, hardly anybody on this forum is using Vue for anything more than a STILL landscape generator. Which is fine for them, more power to you. But sheesh, for that I could have stuck to Bryce for pete's sake. AGAIN, I BOUGHT VUE + MOVER TO IMPORT AND ANIMATE POSER FIGURES IN A LANDSCAPE ENVIRONMENT. I have NOT been able to do so. How Phoul, for example, does it is beyond me. Maybe the code is screwed up for the Windows platform??? I know Philippe is on a Mac. I just wish someone from E-on would address this issue. I've written to tech support, we'll see where that goes. I hope they don't call me and not leave a number, that IS ridiculous. Don't call us, we'll call you I suppose. LOL! -Tim

PS> Re-reading your post ... are you SURE you could move the timeline smoothly BEFORE the update. I have NEVER been able to get Vue to work properly once a Poser figure was loaded.

It's been too long to remember, as I usually don't animate at all, had just started and had not messed with the timeline until you mentioned it. So it's possible that as long as I was able to do an avi I would not have messed with the timeline. Marque

So you weren't doing a whole lot of camera moves, I imagine. Just get the camera in position to cover the Poser figure's animation, and render. Yeah, I imagine that's what a lot of people do. It still mystifies me how Philippe (Phoul) does it then. He has fantastic camera moves, and you would have to have a cooperative interface and timeline in order to set things up as complex as some of his stuff. -Tim