I got a idea last night about m3, and moprhing it into the freak. When your morphing m3 into the freak your just changing the geometery of m3 to the freak, and not the joint parameters, alingment, etc. I was thinking of using a python script to get, and store all of the freaks joint settings... alignments, etc, and m3's as well. Then having the python script adjust those settings as the morph dial is changed. It would go something like this:

((joint parameter freak - joint parameter m3) * morph setting) + joint parameter m3 = joint parameter of figure.

The only problem I'm having is figuring out what the variable names are for each, and every joint parameter in both the freak, and m3 so I can sit down and write a python script. Help! Brad.

I think a script to do a variable Joint Position is a GREAT idea, when it comes to Python, I'm clueless. I messed around with JP's on such a figure but could not get the hands to work even with the FREAK's JP's. I'm thinking that JP's and Bones are two similar but different things. Even with FREAK JP's it seems like a bone issue to me.

Nightfir- what else is happening with your Omni-Directional M2-M3-MF (mr. F) pack? I printed out your HUGE online list of things to do but wondering if this could be boiled down into some kind of 3D application, (Python scripted or whatever) and/or maybe a future DAZ Studio plug-in. Seems like you are really on to some great ideas! Thanks also to iamonk for the new M3-MF morph!

thanks for giving this a shot, let us know how or if it works, i know several people are interested

All you need to do is a regular pose file. Joint Parameters can be apllied like MAT poses. Just pose information. You would have to hand past though. However. I am not sure Daz would want you to do this without permission. The freak was meant to upsell M3. You would have to make sure people can only use it if they have bothe M3 and the freak or something like that.

Daz should have done it in the first place

Done what?

Dirk, No, Daz didn't have to. This is a new/separate product. They expect to make sales off of it above and beyond M3. M3 never promised to provide this type of character. You were not cheated out of anything. In other words, no they do not owe you anything.

M3 can be morphed to Freakish proportions. There is a set of Monstrous morphs for M3 which yield a wide range of abnormal hulking characters.

but I've played and played around with M3 and I just can't get him looking as good as the freak when you try to muscle him up. It's as if his body wasn't really designed for it, and yet the M3 with freak morphs WIPs that have been posted on previous threads look much much better. And the freak looks better but not as versitile. they should have put out a separate muscle bound mike and not tried to do everything in one model. Love esther

well that's a short and sweet reply if ever I saw one. Love esther

ryamka, who the hell are you?? i never said they owed me anything or that I was cheated out of anything, don't put words in my mouth..thank you for your not so clever response

estherau , you won't get m3 muscled up to look as good as the freak, his musculature is very poorly done, which was the whole point of trying to combine the two in the first place.

when M3 first arrived Many of us( me especially) screamed whined and bitched that he seemed a little too "petite"and "androgynous" looking for massive ultramale warlord type fantasy characters so thankfully DAZ responded with the "freak" so in my opinion if you want the softer lighter look of M3 Use M3 if you want a huge hulking brute Buy the Freak .

My approach is a bit different I've manage to import the whole M3 OBj file into Poser and apply The Freak as a morph. This is the Half Freak/Half M3. From here you can use UVMapper to reconstitute the groups. The problem is the Joint parenters. My plan was to make a seperate program that can creat a hybrid CR2 file- such as 1/2 Freak/ 1/2 M3 or 1/4 freak and 3/4 m3. Much easier than a python script but still a paon. Anybody want to help me in this? Let keep it basic as in BASIC. (Ive also did this with Victoria and got a Half Freak half Vicoria 3 but the result is not even vaguely feminine)

please share if it works..

Or how about- "HEAD MASTER" "Head Shop" (think PhotoShop) "Heads-U-Win" "MOAI-MANAGER" (think Easter Island) Ideas for an Application Name that would allow EZ Head transfers between characters. I think whoever can do this will have a totally HOT Poser utility that it seems EVERYONE here would want. It seems like several of the Poser Rocket Scientist-Guru's have already come up with a lot of the components- somehow this who thing needs to be put together as an application!

I've seen JP poses, but not any JP dials. I haven't looked at it but I'm guessing that precludes the otherwise obvious choice of morph controlled JP's?

I was thinking of having a python script read the cr2 files for both M3, and The Freak, and store the joint parameters info, and apply them to the figure moprhing from M3 to The Freak. As to Veritas 777 question on automating stuff. I got a hold of a demo version of a keystroke, and macro recorder called macro scheduler from mjt net. It can make self executing macro's so that other people do not need the program itself. That way I can make a macro of everything I did, and then put the script in free stuff to use.

Sounds like a great idea using Macro Scheduler- I've previously downloaded it and made some simple macros with it. This could be a great Poser tool as far as making INSTANT programs. Just play the macro! Actually this was an original intention of the developers of Poser- the Fractal Design Group- to allow people to send each other macros to do artistic projects. Let's give your idea a shot! (Macro Scheduler works free for- I think 15-30 days- so many people can try this idea!)

Ok I'm confused, what exactly is this macro going to be doing?