Poser - Bryce - Photoshop, Cyndi character created by Thorne, original pose by Schlabber. This is the first time I post something in this forum (even if I have posted some images in the gallery), and I hope this image won't offend anybody here. BTW: some persons asked me how I do the eyes and the hairs. Well, it is very simple: in Bryce I hide the lashes. Seems to me it gives a more living look. The hairs are created in Photoshop using the smudge tool (see tutorial from Xtinction). It is not difficult to do but it needs patience... Vinc :o)

Wow.... great job!

... very nice render

what obbsession does thorne have with prepublesent fey????? almost in a way like child porn!

Well maybe their prepublescent(sic); but they're 900 years old. OK?

I think it is totally unfair to attack Thorne for an image I made. Thorne is not responsible of what I do with his characters. If you want to complain about this image, feel free to post an email to the administrators saying I (not Thorne) have posted an image which you consider inappropriate to this forum. But please let Thorne out of this. Thank you. Vinc

Perhaps Thorne has found vision in the eternally young "clan"/type of faries/fey who delight in all things. Playful and naive their form reflects the pure, uninhibited, youthful and innocent character that is their nature. And since these beings are creatures of their nature they cannot escape their appearance. Certainly June has also found in her image that nature. Porn as an idea is not a part of THESE creatures' nature, delighted, as they are with life in general. Porn is a perception born of a critical but narrow view of life that seeks to protect through censuring. Not a bad perception but different from all things in nature. The ability to censure is a process of excluding from acceptance what is percieved as "bad". From a human perspective it has always been curious that creations that live in a natural world as opposed to the world of human egos, appear not to obsess on things sexual though they share the world with human creatures that do. Humans, being the critical thinkers that they are, believe that their God has placed them in this world, not to learn the error of their ego centric perceptions, but to change all that they come into contact to their own image. It is also apparently a conflict in belief that separates Nature from all things human, as a human seems to need to believe that they bring Gods presence to this world and have been placed here to dominate nature while nature acts as if it celebrates God as being present in the sheer passion of life. Perhaps that is one reason why few human beings actually see these faries/fey with any clarity, and those that do passionately share what they have seen with enough care to capture the purity of what they see as being beautiful and precious. Yet these artists are, like their art, at risk of being dominated through censure and criticism. Certainly it is those few human beings who are true to nature through their art that seek to present the alternative perspective of life to those who cannot see what exists around them. These artists paint with a form of perception which is called illusion which acts as a mirror reflecting back to the human mind that which the mind prefers not to see. This is just speculation.....but I suppose it is the ability to see with a mind that is passionate without being perverse that permits many to see what others call myth, legend and fairy-tale..... in the first place. For you see legend has it that long ago God realized that it was only human beings who could deceive themselves through their ability to perceive, through their own god-given ability to create these human beings thought of their created ideas as being better than what God had created. God separated human beings from all things of nature as a lesson, requiring human beings to conquer their own self made perceptions before they could return to the "garden" of creation. Being an economical God, (and all powerful to boot) rather than build a separate world to house the arrogant human beings, it was decided that they would be permitted to imprision themselves through their own thought processes. Further until a human being is able to view the world through love and compassion they would remain imprisioned by their own ideas, including their idea of death which would reflect back to them their own perceptions of life. So it seems that in art, we create passionately what we see and in doing so set our minds free. We return to our "natural" ability see the garden of delights around us, but in doing so, risk the censure and judgment of those who have less passion about what we see as individuals. So I guess the moral of this story is that those that censure and are critical of a work of art have just as much right to maintain their perceptions as those who have freed themselves from these very same perceptions have the right to remain free of them. The censures of this world will always feel that the artists are traitors to the "cause" of human descency. I for one prefer a world of fairies, unicorns, magic and nature over the self rightous world of sin and decay; but I also recognize that in the war between magic and salvation the main weapon used by both is perception. To the artist who finds Thorne and June's work to not portray the fairies of their own vision, please introduce us to the faires of your vision. Let us share in our visions rather than battle by shooting each other with our perceptions.

And I thought she was cute... shrug Thorne & Rens both create such wonderful characters.... I never considered a pornography angle.... Hrrrrmmmm.... Interesting.... Cheers

personally i do not agree with any form of child pornography, but there are no children involved here , what i see here is a masterful manipulation of pixels on a screen ...

She's beautiful, as usual, June. I am always amazed at your visions of Thorne's wonderful fairies.

i have seen his work. take away the pointy ears that he has put on the charactors and you will see what i mean. i did not see any pionty ears on one called "santa's treat". and there have been a few with toys of a sexual form in a few of those pics.

Take away the pointy ears and I still don't see 'what you meam', Firekath. If standing there and smiling is pornography then we are all in big trouble. I don't know how it is where you live, but in the USofA your kind of thinking was railroaded through Congress by some mouth-breathing religious zealots and was immediately struck down by the courts. It's OK to imagine a better world; at least in countries where conscience has legal protection. Thinking back, I may have missed the 'toys' you mention. Was it the hat, the cane, the floral wreath...?

Firekath: my knowledge of English is probably not good enough, because I don't understand what you mean when you say "I have seen his work". Are you talking about my work? In this case, I think what you want to see in my images are only your own fantasies. You may perform a search in both R'osity and R'otica galleries, NONE of my faery images has a sexual content, there are no "toys", not even a suggestive pose. I'm posting on both forums since nearly one year now. Do you really think the administrators would let me post my images if they though there was any illegal content in it? Or perhaps you think the administrators are also pervert sickos? You want to see child porn in my images? So be it! This is your problem and I respect your opinion, even if I strongly disagree. OK, let's close this thread now. Back to work! :o) Vinc

no way do i ever want to see any child porn. i get sick looking at that type of filth. I am not my ex husband in that reguards. and the "toys" i menntioned, were a type of plug that is used in a lower orifice.

Firekath: if you are seeing things that aren't there, and you know you are sick; maybe you should seek help. Government certified agencies are standing by to counsel you. It's June's thread and June says it's closed. I won't comment further.

Firekath, it's simple, really.... You see a thread marked with Nudity as this one is, DON'T OPEN IT!

I was reading your thread, and it struck me as odd, the way man is completely separated from the animals. You're absolutely right. Here's an example; if I went to the park and took off my clothes, some cop would ride up on horseback and I'd be arrested for indecent exposure because you could see my genitals; yet the horse is naked, and nobody cares. And I'm sure the horse's penis is [ahem] almost as large as mine ;) Why is mine indecent enough to have me locked in a cage for showing it, while his isn't even worth COVERING UP? What a weird and screwy animal, the primate man. We've been DE-volving...Darwin got it all backwards. As for June's image being "porn", well, I see it this way; if I bought a porn video and all it showed was a naked girl standing doing nothing for an hour, I'd either want my money back, or I'd tape over it with "The Simpsons".

Yes it is so, weird and screwy indeed!

Thank you all - including people who disagreed with me - for your replies. I suggest we close this thread now. My intention was not to start a flame or a debate about porn, I just wanted to post an image. Take care all, Vinc :o)