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Subject: Photoshop CS ( Currency Sensor )


MightyPete ( ) posted Sun, 11 January 2004 at 6:42 PM · edited Tue, 29 October 2024 at 1:10 PM

You people should all be outraged at CS new currency sensor that was hidden in this latest update. What? Try importing a image of money.It don't work they broke it. Notice scanned images take a long time, longer than they used to to get them on the desktop? There all being scanned. Why should you be concerned? PoRn next? Because on this side of the planet doing such a thing is legal last time I looked as long as it's single sided. Go to the Adobe forum and tell them your displeased at this underhandedness. Why was I even thinking of this? Why does it effect me? I was looking at a childrens program that has money lessons. On it are pictures of currency that is not my counties currency. I was thinking of making a similar product with my countries currency instead... Well ya sure I can do it cause I'm not using CS but you CAN"T See the problem One right at a time.... gone, Soon you'll have no rights left. Biggest joke of it is there is big gold colored leaves on my currency to stop you from doing this very thing already. No scanned image will work so who made Adobe the Judge and jury? PSP is the exact same. Time to stand up and be counted !


Hoofdcommissaris ( ) posted Mon, 12 January 2004 at 2:59 AM

There is reaction I found googling, I paste it here from FM forums, for your information: Kevin Connor - 06:33pm Jan 8, 2004 Pacific (#269 of 275) As someone at Adobe who was involved in the decision to include counterfeit deterrence in Photoshop CS, let me finally provide you with a response to all of these concerns and questions. Sorry for the delay!: Photoshop CS does indeed include a counterfeit deterrence system (CDS) to prevent the illegal duplication of banknotes. The CDS was created by a consortium of central banks from around the world. We, along with other hardware and software manufacturers, have included CDS in our products at their request to address the threat posed by the use of digital technologies in the counterfeiting of banknotes. There are other software products from other companies that already use this same technology. There are also hardware products that use the same or similar technology. For example, most color copiers sold today will not allow you to copy currency. As digital imaging technology advances, becoming more broadly available and user friendly, the old barriers to currency reproduction are becoming less effective. The unscrupulous are taking advantage of the functionality that is being provided to the vast majority of honest users for the purposes of counterfeiting currency. In the US and around the world, counterfeiting through digital means is increasing exponentially, and retailers and the general public--including our own customers--are at risk. Counterfeit currency is essentially a hot potato. Whoever holds it last, loses. The person who loses isn't necessarily the counterfeiter. There's no government body in place to "reimburse" people who, through no fault of their own, get paid with currency that turns out to be counterfeit. In our implementation of CDS, we've worked very hard to balance the need to protect these unsuspecting victims of counterfeiting along with the need to continue to provide a product that efficiently does what honest customers need it to do. There appear to be several major concerns and objections repeated throughout this message thread, so I'll try to address each one individually: 1. Performance: CDS does not cause any noticeable slowdown in Photoshop performance. During most operations performed in Photoshop, CDS is not used at all. When it is used, the performance impact often is just a fraction of a second. 2. Legal use of notes: It is true that the current implementation of CDS will prevent you from scanning in your own banknotes even if your usage intent is entirely within legal boundaries. Regulations for using banknote images vary by country. It is the responsibility of the central bank in each country to provide images that can be used within the legal guidelines of that country. In other words, if you want to legally reproduce images of the new $20US bills on a Web site or in a marketing brochure, you can contact the U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing for legal images that can be opened and manipulated in Photoshop CS. (You can visit them at www.moneyfactory.com.) Similar solutions should be available in other countries. If you find that your central bank is not providing adequate support to permit legal uses of their banknote images, then you should let them know. 3. Adobe's intentions: Please be assured that this implementation of CDS is not a step down the road towards Adobe becoming "Big Brother." We know that one of the reasons people love Photoshop is because it's an incredibly flexible tool that can be used for so many different things. That's also one of the reasons we at Adobe enjoy working on new versions. Finding ways to prevent you from doing things in Photoshop really doesn't interest us! Moreover, the CDS is not Adobe technology, but was provided by the central banks, who would have no reason to want to restrict anything other than bank notes. Counterfeiting is really a special case in which we could see how our own technology advances were making it easier to commit crimes and we were asked to implement a solution that would have minimal impact on honest customers. Yes, there is some impact, in that you need to contact your central bank for images, but our hope is that it's not a huge inconvenience for that small group of customers who do need to reproduce these images in their graphic design work. It also provides the central banks with an opportunity to better educate customers on exactly what is and isn't legal usage. Of course, CDS in Photoshop CS is essentially a 1.0 implementation of a feature, analogous to the state of the layers palette in Photoshop 3.0. We realize that there may be room for improvement, particularly if there are corner usage cases that weren't taken into account in our current designs. We do want to hear about your concerns, and we definitely want to hear if there's a specific problem that this implementation has created for you. As with any Photoshop feature, we depend on hearing from customers so that we can make continual improvements release after release.


DeadlyFreeze ( ) posted Mon, 12 January 2004 at 4:38 AM

Well it isnt illegal to reproduce US currency, you just have to fallow the guidelines.. What Adobe is doing is pretty BS, CS is hardly different then 7.0. If someone is going to reproduce currency CS isnt going to stop them when they can just use 7.0. Authority: 18 UNITED STATES CODE; 504: Treasury Directive Number 15-56 FR 48539 (September 15,1993) 411.1 Color illustrations authorized. (a) Notwithstanding any provision of chapter 25 of Title 18 of the U.S. Code, authority is hereby given for the printing, publishing or importation, or the making or importation of the necessary plates or items for such printing or publication, of color illustrations of U.S. currency provided that: 1. The illustration must be of a size less than three-fourths or more than one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of any matter so illustrated; 2. The illustration must be one sided; and 3. All negatives, plates, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof shall be destroyed and or deleted or erased after their final use in accordance with this section.


MightyPete ( ) posted Mon, 12 January 2004 at 12:56 PM

One right at a time soon you'll have none left. Anyone know how to get a printer to use gold ink and where to purchace it? I went to the US site, you try to find the downloads. This is STUPID kissing somebodies butt, whole the world moves on. It don't matter how many programs do this it will not stop people doing illigal things. How many ads have you seen around that have images of cash? This is suppose to be Pro Software. It's a joke! Ok I need cash 20 dollar bill that looks like it's a flag flapping in the wind. Think they got one like that? Look around people your rights are getting taken away one at a time and nobody says anything. If it's so innocent then why did they just tell you in the added features? I don't need Adobe or anyone else looking out for my best interest. I'm not stupid I look for the gold ink and anyone taking cash in this country is supose to do the same thing. If they don't then there stupid. Even though I don't really care one way or another CS is one version I'll avoid now under protest at there underhandedness. Like there is always the GIMP for doing those cash ads and kids programs now right? They didn't say anything cause they know it's wrong period. They did it but they know it will not stop the problem. Tell them what you think about that. If nobody says anything this sort of thing will continue. I hear world trade center images are next.


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