hi, well, the intent is to have a png sequence that look like a single png exported image... TRY TO DO THIS YOURSELF: 1) render a figure - export it as png with File>Export>Image - open the png in photoshop and look at it. 2) then back to poser - make a sequence of png in RENDER settings - open one of the png in photoshop and look at it. ARE THEY LOOKING THE SAME? if yes, i am just a crazy mothaf... thank you everybody

yes, they are looking the same.

REALYYYYYYY???? WHATTHEHELL poser 4, ppp or 5?

P5, hon. The catch is that I didn't render against a white background -- I selected render to black in the render options, which sets the alpha channel solidly (the alpha channel being that thing that tells other programs what's transparent in the image). Different programs handle alpha channels differently, though. Quicktime displays the black backgound on both, while MS Paint does not. And before you say it's P5, it isn't. P5 uses the exact same output DLL for png files that Pro Pack does -- they do it the same way. ProPack's is different from P4's though.

great, thank you, so now i know that there is a way to get the result. but why it still look like the image i post? image 1: single rendered png image 2: one png of a rendered sequence

What is the program you are looking at them in? It appears to have inverted the mask (the alpha transparency) for the sequence images (not uncommon -- photoshop does that all the time, and Paint shop pro as well)

damned photoshop :-) i use damned photoshop. what u suggest to do?

Well, I know this won't be much help right away, but I'd suggest asking the folks who know a LOT more than I do about actually using it over in the photoshop Forum. What specifically is it you are trying to do? Is it make an animated gif with a clear background? (bear with me on the reply to this one -- the kids are getting ready for school, and this mom has to make breakfast ;))

i dont need an animated gif. i need a sequance of transparent png images that looks like the png exported from file>export>image... and... ARE YOU SURE that you tryied to do as i asked in my first post? i dont believe that the result is the same. the result is as the image i posted above, with any application, with windows viewer too... so if you told that they was looking the same, just tell me in wich application you looked at them identical?

for transparent i mean CLEAR BACKGROUND. everybody know this. Clear background. so when i will import it in flash there is only the figure and not the background...

i think i will go crazy with this deal

Yes, I'm sure I did what you described from your first post, again with the exception that I noted above. Here are both of the images, in a screenshot directly off my computer showing both of them side by side. The one on the left is Image|Export, the one on the right is Make Movie|Image Sequence. Once again, as well, the big difference between what you did and what I did: "The catch is that I didn't render against a white background -- I selected render to black in the render options, which sets the alpha channel solidly (the alpha channel being that thing that tells other programs what's transparent in the image)." This is what I noted in the prior thread and above in this one, hon.

Dang -- that'll teach me to rush through something in Paint. lol

but did u elaborate the second picture in a graphic program? what version of poser? u told 5, right? well, so i can tell you for sure that there is differeces between poser propack and poser 5 renders. thanx you ps later i will post same screenshot you did, in the explorer windows, k? bye

look png 1 is rendered using file>export>image the backgroud is empty png 2 is rendered using sequence (over black) everything is black and only figure space is empty. if i render over background then everything is bg color and only figure space is empty. strange isn't it? so what im supposed to do? are you sure that propack and 5 use same dll to render? sure sure sure? ;-) bye

Not to render, hon, rendering engine is differernt. You misunderstand, or use the wrong term. The dll that converts the render into a png format is the same one between pro pack and p5. This is not the same as rendering -- this is converting the render into something else -- in this case, a *.png file. Hon, The is a setting in the render options for you to render over black -- you don't change any background colors yourself or anything. When checked, it will render out an alpha channel -- a transparent background. Can you post a screenshot of your render settings? Not your make movie settings, but your render settings.

here them are (thanx for your help, really :-) )

ok, well, yep, those are the settings I used. From there I rendered to main window, exported the image to png format, and then went to make movie, used current render settings (not current screen)selected image sequence, clicked ok, chose to save it as a png file in the pop asking where, and let it go. here is a clip from a screenshot showing both images opened in Fireworks MX(which works natively in png format and exports to flash). This isn't cut and paste -- I opened both of them side by side and hit print screen. All I can say from here is that it works for me. The issue is in the application you are opening it in, and I simply don't know enough about Photoshop to be of help there.

good....good....well....well...... i will install fireworks and i will tell you. (does fireworks do batches or actions on multiple images?) thanks for you time, mate!

I can't speak for earlier versions (I upgraded from version 3, I think, to MX, and have no idea how many were in between) but MX does have a batch process. :)

IT DONT WORKS IN FIREWORKS TOO...uhhhh HELP ME PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I've done all I can, hon. I just duplicated the test on Poser Pro pack, and I still don't have the problem. Gonna have to let someone else give it a shot -- Dr. Geep is very good.

Tonaz, you obviously have a setting that is wrong somewhere. I just did a sample render. Here is the result in Photoshop. THe lower right shows the render settings in Poser. Check your photoshop settings

thanks pjanak, but you did not made a render of a sequence png... you just did one image export render. file>export>image worked for me too. is the sequence that wont work

I also rendered a "sequence" I set Poser to render as a series of consecutive stills instead of an avi. png stills. Is this what you mean? For the movie ouput settings you need to make sure it says current render settings and you need to set it to render over black. pjanak

ok GRRRRREAT i found out myself why it didn't work! you was using 5, right? well, i use pro pack, and they are different programs ;-) ...... in poser pro pack, PRO PACK, not 5, in order to get the sequanced png transparent you have to check "2d motion blur" even if the parameter is set to "0"... GREEEEEEEAT now it works... byebye

Oooookay? Now thats really screwed up. There are so many things about Poser that are either really bad or stupid I don't know why I even bother. MY trouble is that I saved a scene as a compressed file(pzz) I then loaded it up today and the thing doesn't seem to have retained texture data. F'ed up.

yeh.... poser is a great product, but still buggy hope curiouslab will check out everything in poser 6 byeeeeeeeeeeeeee