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Subject: **Curious Labs Poser Surveys**


Curious_Labs ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 11:27 AM · edited Wed, 13 November 2024 at 4:28 PM

Curious about Poser 6? Now is your chance to make a difference in the future of Curious Labs software and win exciting prizes as well! Take our Poser General Survey and Poser 6 Feature Survey and get a chance to win an
iPod, software and more!! Curious Labs has been working hard on planning Poser 6 in the past few months, researching new technologies, reviewing customer service and technical support inquiries and reading the forums to try and figure out what you want. Based on that, we have compiled a comprehensive survey and are excited to get your input on what you want to see in the next version to help us refine your wishlist.

Thank you for your continued input and support of Poser. Rush over to http://www.curiouslabs.com/go/survey to enter and share your feedback today! Winners will be chosen at random.


Niles ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 11:34 AM

I'm more Curious about SR4... is it still in the works?


randym77 ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 12:00 PM

I just took the survey. (I wonder how many people actually click "illegal copy" for the "where did you get your copy of Poser" question?) I told them to please, please, get rid of Content Paradise...


krazik ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 12:09 PM

Attached Link: http://www.curiouslabs.com/go/survey

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ockham ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 12:23 PM

A well-designed survey, but clearly pays no attention at all to the needs and wants of animators. Choices relating to animation are not even available.... Perhaps we can read something about future directions of Poser by what isn't mentioned!

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Curious_Labs ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 12:26 PM

Hi, This survey post was placed up on some of the forums before our newsletter was delivered. On SR 4, we're in the last round of test varification. I fairly certain it will be an end of February or start of March release. Of course as always, unless this last round of test provides a problem that will require more time. Kind regards, Katherine


Bobasaur ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 12:55 PM

They did have a comments section on the last page where I was able to mention my concerns as an animator.

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fido13 ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 12:57 PM

Just finished taking the survey. Improved animation and lighting are two of my most important "wants". Of course stability and speed are high on the list as well. ;)


maclean ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 2:28 PM

I will fill out the survey, but I have to admit to being ultra-sceptical about the whole business. I remember only too well, the various surveys, wishing wells, et al, which preceded Poser 5. I don't think one blind bit of notice was taken of a single thing that was requested by the users, and I fail to see why it should be any different this time round. Have CL suddenly decided it's time to actually listen to the people who use the program? Well, I'll give them the benifit of the doubt and say 'Yes', but if so, it'll be a first. Up to now, I've seen no evidence whatsoever that CL cares one way or the other what we think. Katherine, Please don't take this personally. I certainly appreciate your effort to keep us up to date. It's just a case of 'once bitten, twice shy'. CL has let us down badly in the past, and as far as I'm concerned, they'll have to work twice as hard to regain my trust. mac


maclean ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 2:32 PM

And please, I BEG you...... don't let me win an i-pod!!!! I can't imagine a worse punishment. LOL. mac (who doesn't use one)


maclean ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 2:47 PM

I'm back again. No, I didn't take the survey. I began filling in the 1st page and halfway down, I looked at the rest of the page and realised that not one single question pertained to the program itself. All the questions are marketing-related. Now, maybe page 2 (the poser 6 part) has some sensible questions, but I didn't bother looking. If CL wants me to fill in a marketing survey, they should say so. As for what I use Poser for, how I found out about it and where I bought it, I wouldn't mind helping CL to target their advertising more effectively. But NOT under the pretence of asking my opinions on how they should fix their software. If CL come up with some kind of genuine survey asking what the users would like to see done to fix the program, I'll gladly fill it in. Just leave the marketing part out, or make it a separate survey. mac PS I see CL have actually realised that a lot of people use their product for porn. LOL.


Petunia ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 3:27 PM

Anything CL comes out with is going to be "too little too late" in my book. Sorry, but no thanks on the survey.


Curious_Labs ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 3:33 PM

Hi Mac, The first portion of the survey that seems more on the marketing side just helps us to continue to understand the Poser use and nature. If you like, only fill out the Poser 6 portion. Filling out both is necessary to win the iPod, but since you prefer not to win, feel free to enter info on P6 only. Kind regards, Katherine


maclean ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 4:14 PM

LOL. Thanks for the swift reply, katherine. If there's way to avoid winning the i-pod, I'm happy. And if the 2nd section actually contains sensible questions, I'm even happier. I'll go back now and fill it in. mac


Niles ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 4:25 PM

It is never to late... but it can be too little... I still think Poser5 is a steal for the price, just hope we get SR4.


Curious_Labs ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 4:32 PM

Niles, I can promise there will be an SR4. Kind regards, Katherine


SWAMP ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 4:34 PM

Katherine Just filled out your survey. I see that you have several questions to rate on a scale of 1 to 5. With rateing systems a higher number MOST OFTEN denotes a better rateing. You guys have that completely backwards,where the lowest number denotes the best. Think your going to get a lot of false feedback. SWAMP


ronstuff ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 4:35 PM

OK, so I took the survey, and am wondering what to do with that thing when I win it. LOL! - As usual, the survey seems to have been written by someone who knows almost nothing about the way Poser is actually used by many of us folks. It was almost like being in Wonderland where everything had a strong hint of fantasy and reeked of a marketing attempt to justify whatever they have already decided to do. Don't get me wrong, I love Poser 5 and would never go back to 4, but I wish to heaven that they would just fix the rendering and shading problems. If you can't render a scene without inverted shading, normals confusion, displacement errors and other artifacts, then all those great materials and that hair and clothing and walk-designer are fairly useless till someone figures a way to export it all..


nomuse ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 4:37 PM

I LIKE those little comment boxes. Here's how I used mine; "Suggest next time you do a survey, you start by doing a survey OF the survey. Unanimous responce on the forums I attend is that the questions asked had little to do with what the user base is talking about. Having read the survey, I now concur. A good half of your user base has shunned Poser 5 due to stability issues and a lack of workable features (the new cloth and hair have wonderful potential but one has to call the current implementation a Beta version). There is much more interest in a Poser 5.1 then there is in a Poser6. "As someone creating third-party content I rarely try to finish a work in Poser native. Personaly, my complaint is that Poser does not play well with others...non-standard winding orders, object sizes, orientation, an inability to recognize files (on Mac version) that have not been resource-hacked first... "The core technology is also aging. Poser's simple boning system makes it difficult to push the envelope of realistic human figures. If there were a truly revolutionary Poser 6, it would be a new take that integrated muscle massing and underlying bone structure, combined with a full dynamic environmental system." After all those questions about what I wanted added to Content Paradise, I thought I had to use strong words to make my feelings known. :)


randym77 ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 4:38 PM

"You guys have that completely backwards,where the lowest number denotes the best." Oops. I gave them a mirror image of my actual feelings, then. As for the iPod...I dunno, can they play MP3s? Or just that weird proprietary Apple format?


Tyger_purr ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 4:41 PM

Katherine, I've thought of some more thing I think would be helpful. (especialy from a new-bee POV) Is there somewhere we can send suggestions. I'm sure you don't want us filling out the survey over and over :)

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compiler ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 5:07 PM

Just finished answering the survey (and also completely reversed the answers on a 1-5 scale : 5 was best for me, while 1 was bad...). Keeps my fingers crossed to avoid winning the i-pod... By the way Katherine, there was once a hint that Poser5 buyers from the first months (who have suffered the worst of Poser5 initial botches) could get some sort of compensation. Any news ?


Curious_Labs ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 5:08 PM

Hi,

While I didn't create the survey questions, I can explain that this is meant more as a round off of information. Meaning, we have also a great deal of very detailed input coming from many of the previous posts from the forums as well as direct inquiries from service and technical sides at CL.

Again, if this survey seems too general for some, please understand that it does not represent the complete picture. Just one part of the communication and input that is being reviewed while Poser is in future development. A whole database of more detailed input is also a very large part of this process.

With kind regards,
Katherine


FishNose ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 5:18 PM

Just took the survey, looks pretty good. My hope is that CL doesn't make the same mistake twice - filling it with huge heaps of new stuff that sort of almost works if you have lots of patience. My impression is that this time the focus is on making it streamlined first and keeping fancy stuff for later. Apart from anything else, that's a lot more reasonable thinking - easier to implement and chepaer to develop. And satisfied customers for sure. Stable, robust, logical, fast, durable. Powerful yes, but not at the expense of the other stuff. Wishlist: 1. OpenGL! 2. A popup that lets you do a quick 'search' for a missing obj or tex (like Sonic Foundry's apps) instead of dying on you. 3. Windows that don't disappear behind each other. Try exporting a render, have the wrong suffix on the filename by accident and see where that little window goes... Poser goes real dumb. 4. Stable memory handling, incl. rendering. 5. Smarter light setup 6. A button to delete ALL lights (yes I know there's a python for this) 7. A possiblilty to DECIDE what a saved pose should include, such as MT values, trans and rot but also scale and Body values!!! 8. A Libraries palette with multiple columns at once so one can see more than a few thumbs at a time. Say a button at the top that pops it out across the screen. 9. Copy figure or prop in scene directly. 10. After rendering, quick return to preview mode - not a 30 second wait (on a 2,5 GHz PC!) 11. And again, stability. :] Fish


Dave-So ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 5:34 PM

whats an ipod for ???

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maclean ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 5:49 PM

'whats an ipod for ???' For keeping i-peas in? mac


Curious_Labs ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 5:51 PM

Thank you Fish,

Your impression is correct. With the amount of time Poser 4 was the current product when you consider Metacreations to then Curious Labs, the thought for 5 was that there HAD to be many new wow features. 6 will be the streamline focus. Then with Shade a part of our product mix, we will be working on compatibility (with Shade and with again focus on other 3D products). Then looking beyond will encompass plans that makes the best use of Poser and Shade technologies along side with what the artist and market need to keep expanding the type of 3D tool suites much needed.

Kind regards,
Katherine


grid ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 5:54 PM

I think the contest should be to win the next version of poser =)


Mason ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 5:56 PM

Katherine. Can you give us a list of what's being fixed in SR4? For example, the multi channel magnet bug is a real annoyance. Here if you use a magnet on both a base figure and its clothes and save a pz3, when you reload the pz3, the magnet channels on the clothes get duplicated making the magnet effects duplicate. It happens on load, not on save or I'd write a small app to weed those out myself.


Curious_Labs ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 6:00 PM

Hi Mason, I just tried to push for that yesterday, but - our Product Manager has asked that I wait until this last round of varification is finalized. I should have a post out hopefully within the next two weeks to list the SR 4 details. Kind regards, Katherine


sixus1 ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 6:21 PM

Damn, I filled out the 1-5 stuff reversed also. :(


daverj ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 6:41 PM

An ipod is a family of iwhales. (g) I ALMOST filled in the 1-5 questions backward, but luckily I actually read the question, where it said 1 was best. I think it's silly to even ask if stability is an important issue. Of course it is!!! It is the #1 complaint on every web board for every piece of software made anywhere. Why bother to ask? Just do it.


ynsaen ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 6:44 PM

hee hee. Amazing what reading and paying attention does... Katherine, thanks for all your work to keep us informed. :)

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Marque ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 7:04 PM

Hopefully the hair will be fixed so it doesn't go through the face? Marque


Jackson ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 7:21 PM

Okay, I just filled out the first page, clicked "OK" and was taken back to the first page with all my answers blanked out. It said at the top, "fields marked with a red * are required." There was a red * next to every question; and I had answered them all. This happened twice. Very annoying. And I don't know what an i-Pod is, either.


Gareee ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 7:55 PM

I filled out the survey, and in the comments added the things I thought were most important, since they were not even touched upon in the survey. Opengl or D3D graphic card support is a MUST I can think of no top notch 3D graphic applications that do not support graphic cards! Speed.. the poser interface is quite sluggish at times. 3d support would help, but the interface itself might be the cause. Re-arranging the interface is nice, but being able to create python script buttons (or have a drop down list) would be really nice. There should be a content browser of some sort built in, and there should also be the ability to delete associated content. In other words, if I want to delete a character, everything relating to that character should have a option for deletion. Runtime Bloat is one of the biggest poser problems, IMHO. Heck if they even supported "runtime zip files" that would be nice! get a new item.. drop the zip in a folder, and give poser the ability to extract the content, without spraying it in 100 different folders. rant off

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pdxjims ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 8:25 PM

I filled out every field on the first page, then hit "OK", and it asked me to redo the entire first page. I did, then hit "OK". Again with every field with a need to fill in mark. I'll try one more time tomorrow. However, that said, I don't want a P6 until CL makes good on the promises they made on P5. Don't "streamline" the thing. Make it work for those of us who've already paid and put up with CL's broken promises. And to be honest, after over a year of wairing, even if SR4 makes the thing work perfectly, I'll still be very leary of buying anything from CL again. Gee, I wonder if I just ruined my chances to win... Well, lets see, considering the agrivation P5 has caused us all. we should all get a free i_Pod. Although I have no idea what I'd do with a family of whales...


Bobasaur ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 8:27 PM

It's essentially a firewire harddrive specially configured to make it easy to use as an mp3 player. In fact, it's marketed as an mp3 player that's also a firewire drive. You can store thousands of songs on it. You can also use it to store computer files (parts of "The Return Of The King" movie were transported via iPod during production of the movie). If any of you win this and don't want it, please contact me and I'll tell you how to send it my way - I'll even pay postage.

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pakled ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 8:31 PM

33 degrees 30 minutes, 17 seconds latitude by 40 degrees 12 minutes 8 seconds longitude..now where does that put me..Oh!, that kind of survey..heck, I still haven't learned Poser III yet..;) but don't let that stop yas..

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numanoid ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 8:39 PM

I find it very odd that where it asks what other programs we use with Poser it omitts programs every Poser user actually uses all the time, such as UV Mapper, Correct Reference, Mimic, PBoost, etc, And also fails to ask anything about utilities such as The Tailer, Morph Manager, etc. All these programs are specifically made for Poser, yet your survey ignores them totally. Maybe you should have a survey about what other programs and add-ons we use, and see from those results what Poser is lacking that had to be provided by add-on utilities and programs. It would be nice, for instance, if UV Mapper was intergrated into Poser to have real time previews of texture changes in Poser.


Dale B ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 9:13 PM

Just and FYI, I was getting bounced back to a cleared first page of the survey until I disabled Internet Security; possibly something about Norton's firewall or add blocker was responsible, as things worked fine after that.


Penguinisto ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 9:19 PM

... gimme a Linux version and I'll be more than happy to buy it. Even something as dog-slow as P5 can be greatly improved if the underlying OS runs more efficiently than 'doze or OSX. /P


pdxjims ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 9:35 PM

Uh, I don't think so. Not the way CL programs!


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 10:37 PM

Good to see CL asking for feedback. I've filled out the survey. And, yes, I would be happy to receive an IPod. Thanks.

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Penguinisto ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 10:41 PM

No worries, pdx - I used Mozilla, and I didn;t have to disable anything. (in case I didn't say it before - gimme the Linux port!) HTH, /P


ockham ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 10:50 PM

"A whole database of more detailed input is also a very large part of this process." Will any of us iPeons get a chance to provide any of that input, or will it be only from the iPrivileged few?

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Ethesis ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 11:05 PM

Dear Katherine: The topic line says it all, I disabled content paradise to speed up Poser. I'd like that to be an easier task, and to have SR 4 not bounce because of it. Other than that, fix the site links, add sixus1 and some other sites and I'm happy. As it is, I'm pretty happy.


randym77 ( ) posted Tue, 03 February 2004 at 11:09 PM

"The topic line says it all, I disabled content paradise to speed up Poser. I'd like that to be an easier task, and to have SR 4 not bounce because of it." Ack. Am I going to have put Content Parasite back in order to install SR 4? Please, no!


MachineClaw ( ) posted Wed, 04 February 2004 at 1:26 AM

Lightwave Poser 5 plugin no option no nada, had to write it into the comments section. grumble grumble.


Phantast ( ) posted Wed, 04 February 2004 at 2:25 AM

The trouble with adding lots of wow features to Poser 4, is that it's like an engineer taking charge of a crumbling building, and deciding to add three new storeys instead of patching up the foundations. I wouldn't employ an engineer like that.


Elfwine ( ) posted Wed, 04 February 2004 at 2:31 AM

Attached Link: http://www.apple.com/ipod/

An iPod as a prize is fantastic.

That "weird proprietary Apple format", Apple uses is AAC; AAC is the audio codec for MP4 and is as open as they come, although it is true that the digital rights management Apple is using is not. The recording industry insisted on that. The iPod also supports MP3 and WAV.

Still, it's a little unfair to lambast AAC as closed and proprietary as opposed to MP3, given that none of Apple's competitors sell music in the MP3 format; they all use Microsoft's WMA, which is a closed and proprietary beast.

Just because more players support the WMA format doesn't make it "open,"; it just means that Apple's the only digital music player manufacturer who hasn't had to buckle to Microsoft's monopoly and pay its licensing fees.

Even in its first incarnation, the iPod held music and data, acting as an ultraportable FireWire hard drive, and its hidden Breakout game hinted at its potential to do a lot more than just play Night Ranger's Greatest Hits. Before long, Apple added contacts and calendar functions, an alarm clock, a notes feature, two more games, and the ability (via third-party hardware add-ons) to record voice memos and offload digital photos in the field. Now that shiny white gadget really is a pod, storing all sorts of stuff you throw at it. (With its highly-polished back, it also serves as a handy makeshift mirror-- and, when placed in the toe of a sock, it becomes a surprisingly effective impromptu Whirling Implement of Pummeling.)

In the event you win an iPod and you really don't want it, please let me know. I'll pay postage AND insurance.

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