Everytime I click on "Poser Products" the firewall I have in my computer "Zone Alarm Pro" tells me that the website is trying to access my computer. Any idea why? In 2 minutes this morning Renderosity made 14 attempts to acces my computer. What exactly are they snooping for?

That is because R'osity uses cookies to send and retrieve information. If you logged in and chose the check box to remain logged in (save your user name password), it stores this info on your computer in what's called a "cookie". Everytime you access an area of R'osity that requires you to be logged in, the server checks your machine for the login info (via the stored "cookie"). Firewalls will detect this as an intrusion and sometimes call it an attack like a TCP PORT ATTACK, even though it isn't an actual attack. You are safe ;) Ciao, ----Will

Since Renderosity will not let my computer into the store section unless I accept cookies I guess I'll buy my add-ons elsewhere. The wonderful thing about Poser is that there are a lot of other stores besides this one. Cookies=No-Sale

uh, wait a minute, doesn't logging-in to post also require a cookie; meaning he's already got one?

I don't know enough about that side of how the site works to give a proper answer, but I've asked someone who does to look at this thread. Kev.

Renderosity changed some security settings there was something on the front page about this. Cookie will be effected.

yeah..it creates a cookie..I usually leave it in..only thing that happens if you delete it is you have to logon again..as far as I can tell.

And why are Renderosity's cookies so bad that you would take your business elsewhere? Or is this just a sweeping generalization that all cookies are bad, so sites that use cookies must be bad?

Hes stupid i guess. Item in here are sold world wide. you aint buying a bag of chips.

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There's also a free cookie sorter called "lockjar" which I use, can't find the link offhand, but check with Google or any search engine.

Every sit selling poser products that I know of online (especially if they use Paypal) currently uses cookies. This doesn't make someone stupid, however. It does make them particular, and particular people sometimes have to make allowances and sacrifices. Many, many people still believe cookies to be universally bad. This is from all the bad press that surrounded them initially, as they were not well understood and they were often simply applied without permission (and still are). Cookies can be used improperly, as well. While I disagree with the decision, they have the right to make that decision. Calling them stupid strkies me as slightly inconsiderate of others. But then, I am crazy, so what the heck :)

http://www.howstuffworks.com/cookie.htm cookies are not programs, they do not transmit data.

Aye, thanks Tiger. The data is stored at the server level, the cookie just tells the server what data to retrieve. The cookie, merely identifies you and thus the server can retrieve your personal settings. Ad-Aware does nothing that you can't do yourself without it. BY USING COOKIES, RENDEROSITY CANNOT ACCESS SENSITIVE DATA ON YOUR MACHINE, JUST THE COOKIE THAT WAS PLACED IN YOUR BROWSERS COOKIE FOLDER. If you don't like cookies, I'm afraid you may as well get off the internet bcause they are used everywhere and almost every shopping site with any sense uses them.

I've heard the best way to stop cookies is to wear tin foil on your head. :)

Not all cookies are evil tracking tools. I fully trust the use of cookies at this site, it's not a problem. I'm sorry, but to boycott the store here solely on that principle is absurd. I'm sure that the PTB here and at Bondware are very well aware of the mass exodus they'd endure if they were to try to put spyware on our machines.

it's all the stuff that comes in with cookies that causes all the annoyances..I've been told some of the 'do you wish to install 'x' from 'y' software?' that the 'no' answer is actually 'yes'. (it's just a quick change in Visual Basic, or whatever they use).
I've run Ad-aware for a little while, and it's been a life-saver. Some of this stuff reroutes your home page, insinuates itself in your registry, and adds unwanted toolbars to your browser. Ad-aware finds most of this. It's a constant war; as soon as one side figures a block, the other side finds another gap.. but it's better to keep stopping the worst offenders.
(a lot of cookies are kept in a directory called 'cookies', depending on your OS..you can see the actual files..I selectively and manually delete them..renderosity and daz cookies you can leave..anything that has the word 'click, ad, track'..well you get the idea. Or you can use a program to do this as well..good luck)

It's not a bad idea to use Spybot and Ad-Aware (both are free,) because sometimes one app will catch little critters that the other one doesn't. I run both at least once a week, they almost always find something unwanted.

I have my browser (Netscape 7.1) set not to accept third-party cookies. Some sites will try to put all kinds of stuff on your hard drive. I don't mind if they put their own cookie there, though. In fact, it saves me from having to log in all the time or reset my preferences every time I visit a site! :-) bonni

Just about everyone uses cookies to track visitors, to make it possible for you to log in, etc., etc. Your browser, not to mention your firewall, gives you the control over which cookies you accept and which you don't. Good luck buying things from places that don't want to place a cookie on your harddrive! :)

Just noticed elizabyte's comment.....I have mine set that way as well (I.E. 6, in my case). I find that a lot of the sites that people use to store their free stuff try and put third party cookies on your machine. Actually.....I get a significant amount of spam that tries to do that as well! You can also set your browser to reject all cookies, but it makes browsing the net laughable :)

Did someone already mention that you can set your browser to ask Permission before setting EACH cookie, as opposed to accepting or rejecting all? Some, like from here for logins, I allow, most I just say no thanks. Then every week or two, I use the browser's (NS-7.02) cookie manager to trash any that I missed & don't recognize. However, on the "stupid I guess" side, I did stop using Hotmail because Microsoft added or updated, not one, but about a half dozen each time I retreieved my mail. Just felt there had to be some other info being tracked there other than simply ID'ing me for logins. While I don't really think Gates is the great Satan, & I realize they were offering me a valuable service for free, if they want to gather market research in exchange, I'd be more comfy if they request it openly & politely. (dang - now where'd I leave that handy universal tinfoil helmet)

LOL! -- Now I be's stylin!

ya know, one day you post an OT thread in the poser forum, next thing you know you're in a black helicopter on your way to the rosity HQ in area 51...if only you'd blocked that cookie...

Cooookiieessss!!!! -The Cookie Monster

I was away this weekend but to reply about cookies. Since this is MY computer, I decide if I want cookies in it. If the requirement at Renderosity is that I must accept cookies to be allowed to purchase....... then as I said before. Cookies = No Sale If renderosity wants to pay for space on my computer then I'll allow cookies from their site.

What is the value of 266 bytes stored on your machine for the duration of your sale, after which you can delete it?

If you can't deal with cookies then you can't deal with the internet. Its YOUR computer but not YOUR internet...its kinda like driving, its YOUR car but not YOUR road. you have to follow someone else's rules.

"If renderosity wants to pay for space on my computer then I'll allow cookies from their site. "

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. In order to post in the forums here you must be a member. In order to log in as a member you must accept the cookie that tells this site who you are, your user name, etc. Same for the marketplace. It's the same cookie and that's all it does - caller ID for the internet. A while back they changed servers around and you had to re-log in if you went from the forums to the marketplace but you only had to do it once. If you haven't been to the marketplace since the change that could be why you are seeing the request.

Anywhere you use your credit card will require a cookie on your system so good luck taking your business elsewhere.

I guess drafter69 won't be buying much on the internet....or will be buying from those places who are less secure than Rendo:) Look....a cookie is an identifier. I want to be sure that my account here or anywhere else is accessed by me and no one else. Cookies help ensure that my information is protected as much as they do anything. I would bet that if you check with DAZ, RDNA, Poser Pros, VIP....virtually all the major sellers of models on the internet.....you will find that they all place a cookie on your computer to verify who you are. I can block the cookies I don't want, by setting my browser accordingly, but I'm glad they're used. I'm much more offended by Poser 5's constant need to verify my software every time I start it up :)