At 1300 hours, on 2000-17-09, I, Jack D. Kammerer Jr., of 817 Baldwin Ave., Royal Oak, MI 48067, do hereby request the following: To Tim Choate of Edgenet Inc,(principle place of business ommitted for privacy) and any party or parties acting/representing for or by the above mention party, due hereby request, that all images, posts and freestuff posted by myself under the time in which I was an acting Administrator of Renderosity and acting on good faith of Edgenet Inc, be removed from all active and inactive media presented on Renderosity in a period of, no longer than, forty-eight (48) hours. Further, I request that all personal information regarding myself during my tenure as Renderosity Administration, not be sold, given out or distributed in any fashion, either vocally, electronically, in whole or in part, without prior written approval made by myself or by party, or parties, acting on my behalf. Failure to comply to my request(s) is subject to legal dispute and/or arbitration, with the legal jurisdiction being the State of Michigan Judicial Court, located in Royal Oak, Oakland County, Michigan. By signing this request, electronically, I do hereby state that the above information can be entered into the court of law. Jack D. Kammerer, Jr. 817 Baldwin Ave. Royal Oak, MI 48067

Jack, Your product has been removed from the store. Other items fall into the category of a "work-for-hire" and will likely take longer to sort out. Tim

At 1300 hours, on 2000-17-09, I, Edward Arseneault of 8051 Warren Blvd Centerline MI 48015, do hereby request the following: To Tim Choate of Edgenet Inc,(principle place of business ommitted for privacy) and any party or parties acting/representing for or by the above mention party, due hereby request, that all images, posts and freestuff posted by myself under the time in which I was an acting Administrator of Renderosity and acting on good faith of Edgenet Inc, be removed from all active and inactive media presented on Renderosity in a period of, no longer than, forty-eight (48) hours. Further, I request that all personal information regarding myself during my tenure as Renderosity Administration, not be sold, given out or distributed in any fashion, either vocally, electronically, in whole or in part, without prior written approval made by myself or by party, or parties, acting on my behalf. Failure to comply to my request(s) is subject to legal dispute and/or arbitration, with the legal jurisdiction being the State of Michigan Judicial Court, located in Centerline, Macomb County, Michigan. By signing this request, electronically, I do hereby state that the above information can be entered into the court of law. Edward Arseneault 8051 Warren Blvd Centerlin, MI 48015

Thank you for your consideration in this, I do look forward to having this issue "sorted out". Jack

Where have I seen this before?? haha

Tim, As a songwriter as well as a graphic artist I am VERY conversant in copyright law. I suggest VERY strongly that you look closely at your claim of "work for hire" concerning ANY of the images on this site, including, but not limited to, those of the former administrators. Work For Hire must be identified as such BEFORE the work in question is published. If it is not all copyright and legal ownership resides with the creator of the work. DeanCal

I can only comment on the software development view of this "work for hire" notion, but every company whohirea an engineer/programmer makes VERY sure to get an assignment of IP rights. There is a very heavy and long stading bias in the US courts which says that the actual creator/inventor is SOLE owner of any "work product". There are exceptions, but realyy not that many in the absense of a very clearly worded agreement. Depending on which state laws apply, there may also be a requirement for a "meeting of the minds", which apparently did not happen in this instance at least! The foregoing must be read as general comments based on my personal understanding of legal orinciples only since I am not qualified to give legal advice in this matter. Mike Waters

As an artist who has posted work here, and is currently in legal negotiations to publish some of the work I've shown here, that work had better not be used by Edgenet, because that was not stated in the agreement given to artists who posted their work here. If Edgenet attempts to use that work for its own benefits, then I, as a disabled and very poor and ill person in California, will certainly use all of the tools, including lawyers and the media, at my disposal, to dispute those attempts. I encourage any whose copyrights might be violated to do the same. I take these implications very seriously, because my art is my livelihood, and no one but myself will control who profits from it. Danielle Sylvie Taylor