After the railroading of Dillinger, the acerbic responses, the blatent snow-job, the sheer unmitigated unpleasantness that this place has become I QUIT That's right - adios, goodbye, so long - I'm outta here. There is a clique that will not see that this place has lost all of its community spirit - where once was fun, now exists witch-hunts, show trials, and sheer spiteful mean-spiritedness. When less than 1% of the membership is needed to railroad someone out then there is something seriously wrong here. And I, for one, will not and cannot stand by and watch as this once friendly community degenerates into a clique of shouters-down when anyone tries to point out that what is being done here is just plain wrong. To whoever is running this farrago delete my membership, remove me from the roles of the once proud, cast me into the wilderness, never darken my doorstep again. Remove all of my details from the database - do not sell my name and e-mail address to anyone under pain of extreme legal unpleasantness. (And if you doubt for one fraction of a nano-second that it will be legal and unpleasant, just bring it). Head held proudly high, I walk from the ruins of this once great site, wearing on my sleeve the crepe of mourning for a site that once held the promise of joy. And Tim, since I'm of a mood to quote classical poetry - when the dust has settled and you're looking at an empty set of furums wondering just WTF happened, remember the following... Look upon my works, ye, mighty, and dispair Anyone having fun now?

looks for LoboUK's works.....then heads back to having some fun with Poser Oh my, well, we will sure miss you Lobo. You take care now. Have a nice life. Try to keep the blood pressure down. Bye now! (isn't he a nice sweet boy? And so kind and considerate too. With all those fine positive traits, he could only be from New York!)

At first I wasn't going to reply to this, then I thought, what the frag, I've never been one to keep my mouth shut when someone displays their ignorance. Putting aside the fact that this is proof positive of the mean-spirited attitude that your little clique of blind mice has and vindicates my reasons for leaving - I mean, what sort of person has to make acerbic and asinine comments to the goodbye note of someone who is totally p'ed off with exactly the sort of attitude you're displaying here? And to further compound the exhibition of puerile behavior, you prove positively that you lack a classical education. As anyone who had would know, the full quote is I am Ozymandis, King of Kings, look upon my works, ye, mighty and dispair. The text is attributed to either the Song of Solomon, or Xanadu, depending which authority you accredit. The text is a translation of the text found upon the base of a broken statue - consisting solely of a pair of sandles on a plinth - in the middle of the desert, miles from anywhere. Sorry I was a little too highbrow for you there, next time I'll try quoting Gilligan's Island - that might be more your speed. And no, I do not come from New York. Paul

LOL And here I thought you meant your own works, since as Shelley noted in his poem, nothing was left but the feet of the once proud being. All I could see was your feet. But seriously Paul, why would you expect us to care what you do? Go on for heavens sakes. My point was that we no longer care, the faster the nay sayers go, the better. Go on, please. Here is the door. Right there. See it?

Moved to C & D Forum

quit pretending you have a brain. i'll quote Saturday Night Live (the orignal cast) cuz that's how i feel and simplicity has it's own pureness. "Jane, you ignorant slut." i'd be more eloqent with my insults to you, especially after hearing your (as always) misinformed, incorrect story telling regarding someone i truly love and respect who lives in Texas.... you are such a cunt, liz! a bitter, socially inept, mentally derailed, emotionally deflowered freak of nature!!! HOW FUCKIN' DARE YOU SPEAK OF SHIT YOU KNOW NOTHING OF!!! FUCK YOU!!!! to those who read this, the thread i speak of has been removed, but i was able to read a copy of it. And i speak now, directly from reading that. I am enraged. And after cooling out i already know with complete lucidity that the vulgar words i type will remain how i feel regarding Bast now and afterward. i apoligize to any that reads this and is offended, and a smirk and a nod to those it entertains. my post is full of anger, disgust and passion. Bast belittled what has become something rather sacred to me. The relationship with a special lady. i'm going back to the vulgar display of hate, now.... BAST, YOU SUCK SCABBY, RUNNY EGGS IN HELL FOR YOUR PETULANT, VIRULE EXSISTENCE!! To Tim: my sincerest apologies for the above statements. while they are in the appropiate forum, they are INappropiate for the community who visit here. Do with this as you wish. Delete it if you wish as well. All that i ask, if i may, is that you allow the lumpy, chemically imbalanced pscycho-bitch it was aimed at, to view it first. Again, sorry Tim. ok, bast, i will even allow you your petty return. but know this... you spoke ill of a friend whom i care for and respect who DID aid jack and i financially in the beginning of the year and whom jack and i continue to repay that kindness and secondly, you spoke incorrectly and derogatorily regarding the continually beautiful relationship between i and a lady i am growing more and more in love with with each day. FUCK YOU BAST For being the bitch that you are!!! ed some things you DO NOT fuck around with or treat with a callous nature........

i also wish to apologize to paul for making a beautiful farewell into a vindictive and vile thread. sorry paul!! :(

Interesting use of the word 'eggs' there. I wonder if it's some kind of Freudian replacement for a naughty word? Thanks for holding yourself back on that one, anyway.

Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean, know what I mean! Ah, true love, I am both surprised and warmed by what I read. I am not the focus of this affection, but I know the fine young woman who is! And I am so very, very happy for her and for you, my friend Ed! I was informed of the seriousness of the whole thing just yesterday. Ah, and I like the young knight (who this time is armed with an AK-47 instead of sword) who has come to the defence of his fair maiden! Hearts and stars, hearts and stars, and daggers to all who cast a shadow of any kind on this wonderful thing called love! Your friend, Liz Pope Dreamspinner Inc.

Um... actually it is an AR-15 Semi-Automatic, and that one is mine... Ed's is the 12 Gauge Single Pump Riot Gun... Just thought that I would clear that up :: Jack

So technical! :: But I bet he borrows it ever so ofter, doesn't he? Liz Pope Dreamspinner Inc.

naw, just the .45 of his. i still can't shoot for shit with that one. maybe that's why i like shotguns. near misses COUNT!! LOL

One never parts with his weapon ma'am, if it is one thing you learn in the military, one never parts with something that can one day save your life. :o) Jack

You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. HEY TIM, YOU ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL HERE? Four hours after I asked for my membership to be deleted you moved this thread to C&D but you seem to have forgotten the "delete my membership" bit. Is this how Edgenet plans on keeping up the pretence of having 29,000 members? By not deleting the membership of those who ask? Now 36 hours after I asked for my membership to be deleted, I am still receiving ebots. What's the matter, does deleting my membership reduce the value of the database that much? Just so there's no confusion - you will remove my membership in the next 12 hours and e-mail me to confirm that this has been done and that my name and e-mail details have been delted from Renderosity's database. And for bast: my god, you're arrogant! Did Tim hold another of his patented, 30-second votes nominating you as spokeperson for however many members are left here? (I quote "My point was that we no longer care")[My emphasis] Or are you speaking on behalf of the little clique of nay-sayers that's accumulated and were directly responsible for me requesting that my membership be removed? Or is it the voices in your head you're speaking on behalf of?

No problem my friend, I'm glad it allowed you to speak your mind. All my best to you and your lady Paul

LoboUK's membership has been deleted from the Renderosity database per his request. Russell

Paul was one of the nicest most helpful guys here and didn't deserve that.......Steve

having seen the excellent job russell did on fullfilling lobo's request i had posted asking that if he would be so kind, to follow suite on countless others who have made that same request and none of which as been taken care of. There are posts on here, the news and other forums, some of which have been deleted. and it seems my post here as followed that path as well. So i will kindly ask a second time... thank you russell for taking care of lobo, would you, if you would be so kind, as to fullfill that same wish that has been made countless time by many in the past week?? I thank you for your time. and i thank you for your attention in this. take care, ed

Steve, I don't understand your comment. LoboUK asked repeatedly to be removed from the database, and even sent me a personal "Thank you" when I informed him it had been done. Russell

well, joe, it seems you and many others await that wonderful prompt, efficient, and jovial customer service that edgenet prides themselves on and that i know OH SO well.

{There is a clique that will not see that this place has lost all of its community spirit} Not true - we've split into at least FOUR communities, each with its own strong spirit: The "EdgeNet hosts this place, so they can do no wrong" camp. The (dwindling, as many of them leave) "Jack and Ed are God" camp. The "Let's give both sites a chance and see what happens, screw the politics" (I'm in this one) camp, and the "Let's stay, watch the sinking ship, and drill a few holes" camp. And of course, if we say "Why can't we all just get along," we get the same results Jack Nicholson did in Mars Attacks...

For the record Ed, Joe's request was promptly taken care of.

Hmm. What I see here is: Ed doing a Jeckyll & Hyde thing when he feels his lady-love is threatened. (Congratulations on that to Ed and to the lady, whomever she may be...). Jack waxing poetic about firearms. Bast being arrogant (sometimes she seems so nice, other times I just want to throttle her - but she is a talented artist...) Management WANTING to care but being overwhelmed by obnoxious members, ex-members, and soon-to-be-ex-members. Business as usual? :-)

Oh, well.... Verdie

Er, hands up anyone in the: "EdgeNet hosts this place, so they can do no wrong" camp. . . crickets chirping . . tumbleweed rolling by . . I've seen some posts from the: "Jack and Ed are scumbags" camp, but I'm not sure I've seen anyone eulogising EdgeNet (except EdgeNet). I can't speak for anyone, but I'm not convinced even the moderators here would say that EdgeNet can do no wrong.

Eh, so I exaggerated a bit... ;-)